Utah

There won't be any commuting assistance.

At this point we only have a net loss of five aircraft. Perhaps the cuts won't be bad.

From your previous post, you have over 1500 pilots on the seniority list behind you, and you're already on the 175. That really ain't that bad.

Instead of quitting, and giving up your seniority number, take a leave of absence if you don't want to commute to somewhere else. It seems you might be based in CA. Most of this new growth should be west coast. If you are forced out to somewhere you don't want to go, take the LOA, and do something else locally.

Management will probably start offering longer LOAs by fall if they feel they have to lay anyone off. Up to a year, and extendable beyond that. There were a bunch that took them a decade ago. Some went overseas to fly, some to go to school, some to make more money at other jobs, etc..

TheOtherGuy25

Yup, Chip said he estimated a 10% smaller company come October on the earnings call. That was company wide, not just pilots. Obviously a heap can and will change by that time (hopefully for the better if folks start to fly) but as Utah said above, a net loss of 5 airplanes ain't terrible at this stage.

Hopefully with a few retirements maybe some early ones and extended leave programs no one will get an involuntary furlough with a bit of good luck.

sofarup

I feel you on this. I was one week out from upgrade class when they pulled the plug. And now with everyone going back on the standing bid list it’s like pouring salt on the wound. Can’t imagine what it’s like for those who were actually IN class and got screwed. I hope you can find your way back to something else if they furlough and things pick up sooner, rather than later.

trip

I'd just sit tight and see what happens this fall. If you end up commuting for 6 months to a year so be it, many have commuted for far longer, it's not the end of the world. You could also just get a cheap apt. in your domicile and make the best of it when your there.

Meep

Unless you know someone and have sweet corporate gig lined up. Not sure what flying job would be better. Right now there are probably a lot of guys from TSA and Compass on the street with a lot of PIC time. At this point, it would be dumb to leave especially if you have some seniority built up.

Nobody saw this coming, but nobody saw 9/11 or the 08 recession happening. Aviation has its ups but also its downs.

captive apple

You are probably going to have answers well before this fall. There will probably be a bid within the next month. It is a fluid situation but unless things get obviously back to normal or aviation employees get another government bailout expect displacements at the end of July.

shrsailplanes

I am well aware of what commuting is like. I didn’t get my home base until March of this year. I think most people would agree that commuting to a reserve assignment with 80-90% of flying gone is going to be a smidge different than when we had to commute to a reserve assignment at the beginning of our careers. I started in LGA on reserve and I flew a ton. Hardly ever sat. Once I could hold a line I was commuting to SLC for a long time until I could hold my home base and a line. There is no more open time now with all the flying gone. Reduced hours, sitting for 5 days at a time away from my family, not flying for the foreseeable future sounds not so great. This isn’t paying dues. This is something completely different that will test a lot of people.

Claxstarr

Actually, my man, this entire situation is just part of the career.
This happens every 7ish years the same way that the oilfield cycle and the economy as a whole does as well. Yes it seems like this round is a bit worse than previous cycles, but it’s just another cycle.

We, as a collective pilot group, need to stop acting like children and take responsibility for choosing the profession we did.
This. Is. Part. Of. The. Industry.

On the flip side, you can choose to bail and change careers... you won’t be the first, or the last.

No one is going to get any sympathy from these forums.

shrsailplanes

So, we will displace in July then again this fall for staff reductions?

amcnd

I don’t see a bid coming out tell the fall, September maybe... October classes