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Old 05-23-2020, 11:26 AM
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Is there any way to know where I am likely to end up when pilots start getting displaced at the end of this year? I couldn’t find anything in the PPM about any assistance in commuting since it will be a forced relocation. So, I assume we will be responsible for our own commutes.
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Is there any way to know where I am likely to end up when pilots start getting displaced at the end of this year? I couldn’t find anything in the PPM about any assistance in commuting since it will be a forced relocation. So, I assume we will be responsible for our own commutes.
There's no way to know when, or even if, such a displacement bid occurs. Therefore, there is no way to predict the outcome.
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There's no way to know when, or even if, such a displacement bid occurs. Therefore, there is no way to predict the outcome.
I was a solid line holder in my base now it’s way over staffed. So, that one will shrink considerably. I guess I won’t know where I’ll end up or if I will be senior enough to hold any base. I guess that’s how the furlough process works.
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I was a solid line holder in my base now it’s way over staffed. So, that one will shrink considerably. I guess I won’t know where I’ll end up or if I will be senior enough to hold any base. I guess that’s how the furlough process works.
Most bases are overstaffed now. Will they be overstaffed in six months? That's the magic question that everyone wants the answer to and that no one has. Leadership at the various airlines will make a decision, because they have to, and hope their forecasts are better than their competitors.

For pilots, it's pretty much a wait and see game.
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Most bases are overstaffed now. Will they be overstaffed in six months? That's the magic question that everyone wants the answer to and that no one has. Leadership at the various airlines will make a decision, because they have to, and hope their forecasts are better than their competitors.

For pilots, it's pretty much a wait and see game.
Do I stay and wait it out or do I try and get a new job now? It’s a difficult question. If I wait to get displaced to someplace I don’t want to go just to commute to a reserve assignment for reduced pay or if I wait until I get furloughed there’s gonna be so many better qualified pilots than me competing for the same job. If I leave and then things pick up now I gave up all my seniority and I have to start all over or I have to give up the airlines as a career. I’m an old guy to be an FO at a regional. This was definitely not in the game plan.
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Do I stay and wait it out or do I try and get a new job now? It’s a difficult question. If I wait to get displaced to someplace I don’t want to go just to commute to a reserve assignment for reduced pay or if I wait until I get furloughed there’s gonna be so many better qualified pilots than me competing for the same job. If I leave and then things pick up now I gave up all my seniority and I have to start all over or I have to give up the airlines as a career. I’m an old guy to be an FO at a regional. This was definitely not in the game plan.
You do what is best for you. There is nobody here that is going to be able to give you an answer. You're not the only one in this position.
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Do I stay and wait it out or do I try and get a new job now? It’s a difficult question. If I wait to get displaced to someplace I don’t want to go just to commute to a reserve assignment for reduced pay or if I wait until I get furloughed there’s gonna be so many better qualified pilots than me competing for the same job. If I leave and then things pick up now I gave up all my seniority and I have to start all over or I have to give up the airlines as a career. I’m an old guy to be an FO at a regional. This was definitely not in the game plan.
And what job would that be? Stuck at Atlas? 🤪
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And what job would that be? Stuck at Atlas? 🤪
Maybe banner towing. 😎
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Maybe banner towing. 😎
I'm in a similar position; I'm just enjoying the job while I can. If my number gets called, I'm not going to look for another flying job and will instead just go back to writing software full time (vs. part time / on the side as I do now). Is it not possible for you to return, at least temporarily, to your previous line of work should you find yourself in need of a job?
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I'm in a similar position; I'm just enjoying the job while I can. If my number gets called, I'm not going to look for another flying job and will instead just go back to writing software full time (vs. part time / on the side as I do now). Is it not possible for you to return, at least temporarily, to your previous line of work should you find yourself in need of a job?
I’m an engineer by trade and worked in medical for over 20 years. I got as far as director level before I switched to Skywest. I did this once before back in ‘06-‘07 at Colgan. I had to leave because I couldn’t make my finances work. So, this will be the second time I had to leave and I won’t be able to come back this time. I’m really good at engineering, but I love flying. I’ll never feel as satisfied as an engineer as I do flying. Retirement also looked much better in the airlines. I was close to upgrade, too. I really wanted that left seat. Boo hoo right? Oh well just suck it up and move on.
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