Termination of employment
05-27-2020, 07:20 PM
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Termination of employment
Are pilots getting terminated way easier nowadays because of the obvious over-staffing? Would someone with 3 SAD in 2 years, 4 occurrences (3 emer + sad) in the last year and 0 warnings nor past disciplinary actions ne at serious risk of getting fired?
05-27-2020, 07:44 PM
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I don't think they would call you in and terminate you over a few SADs over a few years. From memory they are supposed to provide warnings be it written/verbal before any serious action takes place.
Can't speak to the current climate, but I know some guys had 4-5 SADs in less than a year with zero issues pre-COVID.
Can't speak to the current climate, but I know some guys had 4-5 SADs in less than a year with zero issues pre-COVID.
05-27-2020, 07:54 PM
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SADs are scheduled assignment deviations, like not showing up for work or showing up late, no call or anything. Totally different then sick call or emergency call out.
If your having a problem or home/life issues there’s help and guidance available but you’ll need to reach out for it. Start with a SAPA rep or Chief pilot.
If your having a problem or home/life issues there’s help and guidance available but you’ll need to reach out for it. Start with a SAPA rep or Chief pilot.
05-27-2020, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Meep
4 SAD’s in 3 years? Seems like a lot.
In the last year 3 Emer + 1 recent SAD (totaling 3 SADs in 2 years). I heard they are terminating 2 pilots per day in one region alone so that's part of the concern.
05-27-2020, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FO Candidate
Are pilots getting terminated way easier nowadays because of the obvious over-staffing? Would someone with 3 SAD in 2 years, 4 occurrences (3 emer + sad) in the last year and 0 warnings nor past disciplinary actions ne at serious risk of getting fired?
However, you kinda have to go to work to keep your job. If you can’t make it, call out at least 2 hours in advance, even the night before.
05-27-2020, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
I haven’t heard anything of the sort.
However, you kinda have to go to work to keep your job. If you can’t make it, call out at least 2 hours in advance, even the night before.
However, you kinda have to go to work to keep your job. If you can’t make it, call out at least 2 hours in advance, even the night before.
As said above, if you can't make it call out within the time required. I think you should be pretty safe as you are right now.
05-28-2020, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FO Candidate
No no.
In the last year 3 Emer + 1 recent SAD (totaling 3 SADs in 2 years). I heard they are terminating 2 pilots per day in one region alone so that's part of the concern.
In the last year 3 Emer + 1 recent SAD (totaling 3 SADs in 2 years). I heard they are terminating 2 pilots per day in one region alone so that's part of the concern.
But, I don’t think they would let you go without even putting you on probation first. They might put a warning letter in your file but I find it hard to believe the first step is termination unless you did something really bad.
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