domino

no. Now. I post in the now. In the current. Like now. See? Amazing when you learn to read what you don’t need spelled out to you.

domino

I live in the now. What IS clear is that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Ever.
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domino

exactly. Fog a mirror, get hired. But screw stuff up, get fired.
Many careers are ending before they’ve even begun with the new training model. Washing out at a 121 carrier is a major hindrance to success.

Hedley

How many people are having failures through no fault of their own and how many are showing up and not putting in the necessary work? My first jet job was FE on the 727 with very little prior experience. It was old school firehose training where you had to build the airplane, and if you can’t pass on time, you were fired. We all passed, but we were were either in class or studying in our hotel room 12-14 hours per day for 2 straight weeks. There was no going home or even turning on the TV. A friend of the family went through XJT training about a year before they shut down. He had prior jet experience and said that their program was well designed, but the new hires didn’t want to put in the required level of effort since under AQP you can just repeat a session. They had multiple repeat sessions simply for showing up to the sim without the flows and call outs down cold and people needing up to 100 hours of IOE was not uncommon. Those people should have been shown the door for not putting in the effort. The regionals have historically done a very good job of taking people with no experience and transitioning them into safe pilots. This job doesn’t require a 4.0 in engineering from MIT, but it does require that people do the work, and do it on schedule. We aren’t any smarter than the people applying today, so why the difference in performance? Is it because we knew that if we failed we would be fired and quickly replaced, where today’s applicant knows that the airlines no longer have that luxury and will extend training as much as needed just to get an able body through?

Claxstarr

First, for all new hires and prospective cadets/pilots,
Domino is a troll from another airline who quite obviously has zero knowledge of our operation as he is wrong every time he posts.

Secondly, Hedley is on point with his comment.
The only people washing out of the program are not putting in the time.
I’ve seen this time after time, people come into this program thinking it’s going to be easy and watch Netflix and drink too much beer when the should be putting in the work and studying.
I see students at every step of the training process and yes there are some who come out with a failure and complain that “it’s not my fault, it’s the APD” or “the APD was racist/sexist/homophobic/didn’t like me/whatever” or “the program is designed for us to fail”…
These are the same people who complain about failing their private checkrides.
Anyone who was a CFI has seen this… hazardous attitudes anyone?

OO has an excellent program compared to the rest of the industry. We successfully pump out 121 jet pilots from people have only flown cessnas to the tune of 200+ a month and a 90%+ success rate.

Just. Put. In. The. Work.
It’s that simple.

Hedley

First, for all new hires and prospective cadets/pilots,
Domino is a troll from another airline who quite obviously has zero knowledge of our operation as he is wrong every time he posts.

Secondly, Hedley is on point with his comment.
The only people washing out of the program are not putting in the time.
I’ve seen this time after time, people come into this program thinking it’s going to be easy and watch Netflix and drink too much beer when the should be putting in the work and studying.
I see students at every step of the training process and yes there are some who come out with a failure and complain that “it’s not my fault, it’s the APD” or “the APD was racist/sexist/homophobic/didn’t like me/whatever” or “the program is designed for us to fail”…
These are the same people who complain about failing their private checkrides.
Anyone who was a CFI has seen this… hazardous attitudes anyone?

OO has an excellent program compared to the rest of the industry. We successfully pump out 121 jet pilots from people have only flown cessnas to the tune of 200+ a month and a 90%+ success rate.

Just. Put. In. The. Work.
It’s that simple.[/QUOTE]

The guy that went through XJT training said that those who needed to repeat sessions didn’t look at that as a failure and they saw no shame in being coddled and carried through the program. I’ll never understand that mindset and those with that attitude and work ethic should be washed out.

jpso

Are you suggesting you *do* now what you're talking about? Do we need to relive those domino covid industry predictions?