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Old 06-04-2021, 06:19 PM
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Some of you guys are a tough crowd lol
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Old 06-08-2021, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
All this talk and would you not go to a major because your scared to training, how about being a MD80 FO and the get rid of them and you have to upgrade to the 737. That stop you..??... be a pilot.. study, work hard, learn for your captains. And take the upgrade!!!
Maybe put down the beer and try that one again? Plus, I think some kids need to get off your lawn...
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
All this talk and would you not go to a major because your scared to training, how about being a MD80 FO and the get rid of them and you have to upgrade to the 737. That stop you..??... be a pilot.. study, work hard, learn for your captains. And take the upgrade!!!
it’s understandable that people would be nervous, especially on a first upgrade.
when you’re at a legacy, that move usually isn’t your first upgrade nor second ever type rating, but it could be here. While I also think people should generally take the leap, it’s an easy fear
to sympathize with
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Old 06-15-2021, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawker445 View Post
Yea the ERJ FO to CRJ CA is pretty difficult. I've flown with a number of transitions and some still had that ERJ mentality. You can't fly this airplane like an ERJ.

The go around profile is a mouthfull...

Set Go around thrust , flaps 8, (positive rate gear-up) speedmode, heading mode. bug VFTO. Climb sequence (flaps up). After takeoff check.
Never flew the ERJ but man that plane must make you guys lazy if you think the GA procedure on the CRJ is a mouthful. To the OP, don't upgrade until your ready. You either have the confidence to do it or you don't. Don't put any unnecessary pressure onto yourself to fit the norm.
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Old 06-15-2021, 06:22 AM
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Just curious for the original poster…what’s your delta in time between taking the CRJ upgrade and waiting for it in the ERJ at the most junior base?
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Old 06-15-2021, 07:05 AM
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Just curious for the original poster…what’s your delta in time between taking the CRJ upgrade and waiting for it in the ERJ at the most junior base?
I upgraded on the CRJ after 15 months and at 5 years i am almost the most junior CA on the 175. So the difference is huge. Seniority wise, i was 46% and now i am 96%
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Old 06-15-2021, 07:16 AM
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I upgraded on the CRJ after 15 months and at 5 years i am almost the most junior CA on the 175. So the difference is huge. Seniority wise, i was 46% and now i am 96%
Wow, that’s a lot. Thanks for sharing!
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Old 06-15-2021, 08:54 AM
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I'd think that with all of the new 175s coming over the next year the upgrade times will drop on this aircraft. Plenty of growth and I'd imagine plenty of attrition.
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Old 06-15-2021, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad View Post
I upgraded on the CRJ after 15 months and at 5 years i am almost the most junior CA on the 175. So the difference is huge. Seniority wise, i was 46% and now i am 96%
Ok, so I’m basically the same story, except it was 17 months for me MSP CRJ upgrade, MSP CA 175 now, same seniority pullback.

From 2018 to the start of COVID it was around a 4 year upgrade ERJ, you better like Chicago. On the CRJ it was basically when you had the minimum flight time requirements to upgrade. ORD might not be the most junior domicile for the 175 anymore.

Speaking now in the present, the ERJ upgrade and CRJ upgrade are going to start shifting closer together. With 28 175’s coming into service in 2022, potential for 200’s to be retired, the fleet mix will be heavier 175, changing everything.

I still think the CRJ will be quicker though. A lot of CA’s who upgrade out of the CRJ want to move on immediately, and usually have their apps out, not picky on their submissions. I don’t blame them, the stress of the 200 and it’s continuous maintenance issues at outstations got really old, really quick. I actually know a guy who walked directly into the Chief Pilots office and quit on the spot. The mighty 200 and it’s stress it brings was partially to blame.

The CRJ 200 is a complete embarrassment at times in reference to providing a great service to paying customers. Without providing specific examples, I was embarrassed for Delta in some instances. As the pilots, you just have to be as professional as possible, and give plenty of announcements so the passengers at least know why they’re missing their kids wedding and it’s 90 degrees in the cabin.

It’s a phenomenal introduction for pilots to the airlines though. The legacy carrier’s put on the show of providing the premier product, but it’s all about their bottom line.

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Old 06-16-2021, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JonGoodsell764 View Post
Never flew the ERJ but man that plane must make you guys lazy if you think the GA procedure on the CRJ is a mouthful. To the OP, don't upgrade until your ready. You either have the confidence to do it or you don't. Don't put any unnecessary pressure onto yourself to fit the norm.
I deleted my bid. You are right.
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