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brockenspectre 06-29-2021 05:17 AM

United's 270 aircraft order
 
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...ng-airbus-jets

"United's use of 50-seat jets will fall to less than 10% of its domestic departures versus about one third currently, Nocella said."

Discuss.

Claxstarr 06-29-2021 05:22 AM

United's 270 aircraft order
 

Originally Posted by brockenspectre (Post 3256274)
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...ng-airbus-jets

"United's use of 50-seat jets will fall to less than 10% of its domestic departures versus about one third currently, Nocella said."

Discuss.


Bye bye CRJ, hello ERJ.
Also, C5’s meteoric rise was short lived.
Bye bye C5/G7.

PossibleDeviation 06-29-2021 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by Claxstarr (Post 3256279)
Bye bye CRJ, hello ERJ.
Also, C5’s meteoric rise was short lived.
Bye bye C5/G7.

Yep - let the ERJ transitions commence again..

Hedley 06-29-2021 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Claxstarr (Post 3256279)
Bye bye CRJ, hello ERJ.
Also, C5’s meteoric rise was short lived.
Bye bye C5/G7.

Where are you going to get ERJ’s? Scope is maxed out. When 700’s get converted to 550’s you can have ERJ’s on a 1 for 1 basis, but that’s it. Air Wisconsin and CommutAir may not come out of this, but SkyWest is also going to have a bunch of aircraft removed from the United system with no replacements.

Claxstarr 06-29-2021 05:42 AM

United's 270 aircraft order
 

Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3256286)
Where are you going to get ERJ’s? Scope is maxed out. When 700’s get converted to 550’s you can have ERJ’s on a 1 for 1 basis, but that’s it. Air Wisconsin and CommutAir may not come out of this, but SkyWest is also going to have a bunch of aircraft removed from the United system with no replacements.


Ok :)
I’m sure you’re right. SkyWest/republic/Mesa will all shrink away into nothingness in the next 6 months.

Hedley 06-29-2021 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Claxstarr (Post 3256289)
Ok :)
I’m sure you’re right. SkyWest/republic/Mesa will all shrink away into nothingness in the next 6 months.

Where did I say that? The big three will be fine. SkyWest will most likely continue to fly the current number of 70/76 seat planes, but see the CRJ get retired. Considering how many CRJ’s you guys operate for United, their retirement will shrink number of pilots that are needed. I’d expect attrition to take care of the over staffing issues, but it could be a long ride at the bottom for the new hires.

TFAYD 06-29-2021 05:55 AM

Just to be clear - the CRJ550 will stick around. Any comments re: 50 seater pertains to single class cabin only.

brockenspectre 06-29-2021 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3256294)
Just to be clear - the CRJ550 will stick around. Any comments re: 50 seater pertains to single class cabin only.

The million dollar question is if somehow the 65,000 MTOW for the 550 gets changed.

TFAYD 06-29-2021 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by brockenspectre (Post 3256299)
The million dollar question is if somehow the 65,000 MTOW for the 550 gets changed.

why would that matter?

Hedley 06-29-2021 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3256313)
why would that matter?

To qualify as a 50 seat jet the seating configuration has to be 50 or less and a weight of 65,000 lbs or less. UALPA will not allow the weight to be changed. According to what I’ve read, the single class 50 seat jets are being phased out, but the 550’s are going to be around for a while.


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