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flynd94 06-29-2021 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3256361)
the CRJ 550 is at 65000 as far as I know. Why would it need to change? Come down? It already is considered a 50 seater under the UPA


What he is alluding to if the 65000 is increased the CRJ550 is no longer allowed since we also have weight limits on scope. It would move it up into the 70/76 seat scope area.

TimetoClimb 06-29-2021 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3256293)
Where did I say that? The big three will be fine. SkyWest will most likely continue to fly the current number of 70/76 seat planes, but see the CRJ get retired. Considering how many CRJ’s you guys operate for United, their retirement will shrink number of pilots that are needed. I’d expect attrition to take care of the over staffing issues, but it could be a long ride at the bottom for the new hires.

SkyWest, Republic and Mesa being referred to as the "Big Three"; Now that is hilarious!

Hedley 06-29-2021 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by TimetoClimb (Post 3256385)
SkyWest, Republic and Mesa being referred to as the "Big Three"; Now that is hilarious!

Glad someone gets the pun.

captive apple 06-29-2021 08:04 AM

There still are a lot of questions. There are many non-eas communities that would be hurt by this. United could ask Skyw to do these markets with their own brand, protecting the United brand, with a code share at the hub.

Claxstarr 06-29-2021 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 3256394)
There still are a lot of questions. There are many non-eas communities that would be hurt by this. United could ask Skyw to do these markets with their own brand, protecting the United brand, with a code share at the hub.


I mean we do still have our own ticketing software…
Dust the cobwebs off and go to town..
But that won’t happen. They’ll drop the 145’s and let the few remaining -200’s of Skywest run the EAS game since Skywest owns the ground operations as well. 200’s won’t be completely gone for a long long time.

TFAYD 06-29-2021 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 3256363)
What he is alluding to if the 65000 is increased the CRJ550 is no longer allowed since we also have weight limits on scope. It would move it up into the 70/76 seat scope area.

so why would anyone mess with it then? The only reason the CRJ 550 exists is because it fits the 50 seater scope.

UA mgmt stated very clearly in the investor call this morning that they are not planning on any scope changes. And I wouldn’t count on a SNB as today’s order clearly highlighted. The number of 70/76 seaters is fixed where it is today.

captive apple 06-29-2021 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Claxstarr (Post 3256398)
I mean we do still have our own ticketing software…
Dust the cobwebs off and go to town..
But that won’t happen. They’ll drop the 145’s and let the few remaining -200’s of Skywest run the EAS game since Skywest owns the ground operations as well. 200’s won’t be completely gone for a long long time.

I don’t see them being ok with abandoning markets. So the other alternative is to stop sending the 175s into Reno and OKC and put them into minot and IDA as old new 737s get purchased. The reduced frequency to North Sakota markets could make them unprofitable.

amcnd 06-29-2021 09:15 AM

I see UA taking over routes like DEN-JAX/BHM/CHS and the 175's Shifting to the mid size 50 seat routes, DEN-TUS/FAT eat... bad news for our small bases like TUS/FAT/PSP.... The 50 seat will just do the ultra small community's .. DEN-Moab/Liberal ect.....

Hedley 06-29-2021 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3256403)
so why would anyone mess with it then? The only reason the CRJ 550 exists is because it fits the 50 seater scope.

UA mgmt stated very clearly in the investor call this morning that they are not planning on any scope changes. And I wouldn’t count on a SNB as today’s order clearly highlighted. The number of 70/76 seaters is fixed where it is today.

It won’t change. There is no reason for ALPA to allow it. I was replying to another poster who suggested a possible change in the weight.

KirillTheThrill 06-29-2021 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3256403)
so why would anyone mess with it then? The only reason the CRJ 550 exists is because it fits the 50 seater scope.

UA mgmt stated very clearly in the investor call this morning that they are not planning on any scope changes. And I wouldn’t count on a SNB as today’s order clearly highlighted. The number of 70/76 seaters is fixed where it is today.

After glancing over these articles a few times, this is not large growth for UA anyways, it’s a 1 for 1 replacement with new metal that will mock Delta’s success.


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