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Old 07-13-2021, 05:20 AM
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Maybe they should leave the restriction. Maybe United should hire more pilots to fly more planes and SkyWest should hire fewer.
In a perfect world the Major would fly all planes with Major on the side, what a novel concept.
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In a perfect world the Major would fly all planes with Major on the side, what a novel concept.
min a “perfect world” you wouldn’t buy made in China stuff at Walmart either ….
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Originally Posted by brockenspectre View Post
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NSNB refers to E195-E2 and A220 fyi
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Old 07-13-2021, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FlinFlon View Post
Maybe they should leave the restriction. Maybe United should hire more pilots to fly more planes and SkyWest should hire fewer.
That is what is happening at United. The number of mainline aircraft should increase and the number of regional aircraft will decrease. Being that SkyWest doesn’t fly exclusively for United, they could lose hours for United when the CRJ eventually leaves and pick up even more hours somewhere else. United only influences part of their staffing requirements.
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NSNB refers to E195-E2 and A220 fyi
United having those would be great....but, still would not reduce the need for regional feed with 76 seats and lower.
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United having those would be great....but, still would not reduce the need for regional feed with 76 seats and lower.
Actually it could since the SNB would do most of what the 76 seat jets are doing now. The 76 seat jets, including the additional jets freed up by the SNB, would then cover what the bulk of what the 50 seaters do now, and the few remaining 50 seaters could handle the limited service to remote places like Hayes KS. Capacity would be maintained or increased depending on the market while reducing the total number of UAX aircraft. The need for regional feed will still be there, but the amount of t is contracted out can be reduced.
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Actually it could since the SNB would do most of what the 76 seat jets are doing now. The 76 seat jets, including the additional jets freed up by the SNB, would then cover what the bulk of what the 50 seaters do now, and the few remaining 50 seaters could handle the limited service to remote places like Hayes KS. Capacity would be maintained or increased depending on the market while reducing the total number of UAX aircraft. The need for regional feed will still be there, but the amount of t is contracted out can be reduced.
Yea, they sure could be used where the 76 seats are being used. Here is what is being overlooked....the astronomical amount of markets that are not served due to lack of available aircraft, and increased frequency between already established markets. The point you are trying to make is just flat out not the case.
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Yea, they sure could be used where the 76 seats are being used. Here is what is being overlooked....the astronomical amount of markets that are not served due to lack of available aircraft, and increased frequency between already established markets. The point you are trying to make is just flat out isn't the case.
The airlines are responding to demand with what they have to work with. Since scope is maxed out, there will be no more 70/76 seats entering the fleet. The single class 50 seaters that we do have are unpopular, inefficient, old, and are being phased out at United and at our competition. The 550 is a good 50 seat product from a customer perspective, but it has some serious weight and range limitations. People made the same argument that you are when the turboprops were phased out. They said that we wouldn’t give up really small markets or high frequency, but they still went away. The same thing is happening now with the current fleet of single class 50 seaters. They are going away. A viable replacement could be developed if the legacies show that there is a strong demand, or the industry will continue to evolve like it always has without a new 50 seat aircraft. I’m betting that the focus moving forward will be on the comfort and efficiency provided by larger aircraft at the expense of frequency and a very small number of markets that can’t support a 550 or 175.
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The airlines are responding to demand with what they have to work with. Since scope is maxed out, there will be no more 70/76 seats entering the fleet. The single class 50 seaters that we do have are unpopular, inefficient, old, and are being phased out at United and at our competition. The 550 is a good 50 seat product from a customer perspective, but it has some serious weight and range limitations. People made the same argument that you are when the turboprops were phased out. They said that we wouldn’t give up really small markets or high frequency, but they still went away. The same thing is happening now with the current fleet of single class 50 seaters. They are going away. A viable replacement could be developed if the legacies show that there is a strong demand, or the industry will continue to evolve like it always has without a new 50 seat aircraft. I’m betting that the focus moving forward will be on the comfort and efficiency provided by larger aircraft at the expense of frequency and a very small number of markets that can’t support a 550 or 175.
You said before, that the amount of regional feed that is contracted out can be reduced. What aspect of regional flying are you referring to? Also, you have yet to bring up the at risk aspect of regional flying. Now that aircraft are being freed up off dedicated contracts, those old turboprop markets can now be addressed again. We have a lot of flying in our system that 200's replaced EMB's, only because we had the airplanes to do them at risk.
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