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Old 04-07-2022, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PorkyMcFuzz View Post
That is a fair point. Im just out of ideas why they are letting things fall apart so quickly when they have the power to alleviate the bleeding of pilots somewhat, literally all it takes is pay and life improvements and I guarantee you a fairly large number of pilots will be happier to wait their turn for GPI and you'll get the numbers of FOs willing to upgrade increase as well.

Granted retention issues are everywhere in the regional world, but if any regional has the resources to immediately improve pay and QoL it would be OO...yet they are sitting doing nothing for some odd reason. Im just out of ideas trying to work out what the game plan is anymore.
Because you can't guarantee that a large number of pilots would be happier to give up epic seniority at majors or even ULCCs to wait for GPI. Anyone willing to give up crazy seniority at a major/ULCC in exchange for a small pay bump and slight QOL boost at their regional probably should have their first class medical revoked.

Management is out of ideas too, that's why the problem is so bad. It certainly doesn't help that the legacies chopped the top end of their seniority lists off and are hiring faster than they can possibly train. It's kind of fun to watch honestly.

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Longevity at a legacy earns you maybe a $5k increase in pay annually. A year of seniority allows you to upgrade a year earlier (worth roughly $100k) and the same $5k annually, plus superior bidding/QOL for your entire career.

I know which I would pick…
A year of seniority might mean you upgrade a decade or two earlier, which is worth millions. Sometimes it's just a day of seniority that can do that. There is almost no amount of money that regionals can throw at their pilots right now to change that fact. Huge QOL increases *might* change that, but they would have to be written in stone and right now regionals are way too afraid to give their pilots QOL because that means even less flights go in the short term with no guarantee of long term retention.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:09 PM
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Because you can't guarantee that a large number of pilots would be happier to give up epic seniority at majors or even ULCCs to wait for GPI. Anyone willing to give up crazy seniority at a major/ULCC in exchange for a small pay bump and slight QOL boost at their regional probably should have their first class medical revoked.
Well the clock is ticking. Time will tell what the outcome will be and probably wont be waiting long to see how it all plays out anymore.
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Old 04-08-2022, 04:45 AM
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What are you talking about? We've only had 75 people leave...

....so far...


...this month....
Make that 91. (Another 18 gone as of today.)
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Old 04-08-2022, 05:21 AM
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Make that 91. (Another 18 gone as of today.)

Are you guys serious? 91 pilots left in the first week of the month? Shirley you can’t be serious.
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Old 04-08-2022, 05:29 AM
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The silence around here is deafening, time for some leadership.
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Old 04-08-2022, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER View Post
Are you guys serious? 91 pilots left in the first week of the month? Shirley you can’t be serious.
Confirmed.

All Pilot Seniority List on 3/31 - 5523, and on 4/8 - 5477. Net change of -46 pilots

My personal seniority number has moved up 91 spots 3/31 to 4/8.
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Old 04-08-2022, 06:23 AM
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Are you guys serious? 91 pilots left in the first week of the month? Shirley you can’t be serious.
You know morale is bad when people ignore a straight line…
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Old 04-08-2022, 06:37 AM
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The silence around here is deafening, time for some leadership.
Echo that. Funny how MT just up an vanished like a fart in the wind, and this GW guy is mysteriously at the helm. All we get from him is the same old “take care of each other and win the day” bs and that sh!t eating grin plastered on our website every other week.

WTF is the plan SGU????

What say you??
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Old 04-08-2022, 07:42 AM
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The silence around here is deafening, time for some leadership.
How? WHO?
In troubled times management benefits from a union who can speak for labor with a unified voice to work REAL solutions. The GPI, DEC, bonus programs were one-sided from SGU. We all knew they’d not work. So. The quit is on. Looks like the 91 pilots lost were in the top 50%. Not junior pilots. There are a TON of pilots currently flying with CJOs.

Not a long-term problem a recession will fix.
A recession won’t happen in the next seven weeks. I think by June 1 we’re parking planes.

Too much of a good thing. Mamma says.
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