When should I apply?
#11
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This info is correct as of today if you want to fly the CRJ, but incorrect if you want to fly the ERJ, which is currently 3 months from Indoc to LOE completion and then a 3-4 week wait for IOE.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone!
i agree with you MntFlyer, just because I am CL 65 typed 7 years ago that I will pass with no efforts. I know I will have to work as hard as the first time around and nothing is guaranteed.
What happened with that person that dropped in sims with the same credentials? How many sims and hours of IOE do they give these days? That's an important factor for people like me that have been out for a 7-10 years. What's the best way to prepare?
The reason why I thinking SKW CRJ is because of the DFW base. I'd rather learn another plane / ERJ. But I want to avoid the commute.
Not sure Envoy will call given that everyone will be rushing there because of the latest pay increase. Hope this propagates everywhere. And the last one left is Mesa and I'd rather avoid it.
LCCs are not going to look at me with 200 hours flown about 7 years ago.
i agree with you MntFlyer, just because I am CL 65 typed 7 years ago that I will pass with no efforts. I know I will have to work as hard as the first time around and nothing is guaranteed.
What happened with that person that dropped in sims with the same credentials? How many sims and hours of IOE do they give these days? That's an important factor for people like me that have been out for a 7-10 years. What's the best way to prepare?
The reason why I thinking SKW CRJ is because of the DFW base. I'd rather learn another plane / ERJ. But I want to avoid the commute.
Not sure Envoy will call given that everyone will be rushing there because of the latest pay increase. Hope this propagates everywhere. And the last one left is Mesa and I'd rather avoid it.
LCCs are not going to look at me with 200 hours flown about 7 years ago.
#14
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Thanks for the feedback everyone!
i agree with you MntFlyer, just because I am CL 65 typed 7 years ago that I will pass with no efforts. I know I will have to work as hard as the first time around and nothing is guaranteed.
What happened with that person that dropped in sims with the same credentials? How many sims and hours of IOE do they give these days? That's an important factor for people like me that have been out for a 7-10 years. What's the best way to prepare?
i agree with you MntFlyer, just because I am CL 65 typed 7 years ago that I will pass with no efforts. I know I will have to work as hard as the first time around and nothing is guaranteed.
What happened with that person that dropped in sims with the same credentials? How many sims and hours of IOE do they give these days? That's an important factor for people like me that have been out for a 7-10 years. What's the best way to prepare?
The normal range of hours for IOE seems to be around 25-30 hours. That bucket can grow up to 50 hours but you'll get put into special tracking if that happens. Not a huge deal, just more training and additional line checks to help you get through it.
I have no idea what happened to the gentlemen other then I didn't see him on the seniority list anymore during sims. We were scattered between CVG, STL, and ATL and some had a 2 week break so it was hard to get together to discuss things that we were struggling with. My assumption is he was either asked to resign and reapply after 6 months or he simply left for another position (I'm hoping that was the reason...).
Some things I'd recommend before going would be ATC procedures (SID's, STARs, clearance types, etc.) and JEPP Chart familiarization again. You won't have a lot of time for that type of review during training and they jump right into it on day one of sims. Obviously, I don't know where your current comfort level is, so you may already have those wrapped up pretty tight. The actual aircraft stuff will probably come back to you pretty quickly too. I wouldn't worry to much about the rest, the training department will give you everything else you need to succeed.
Cheers and best of luck!
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#18
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Hi everyone, European guy here! Been flying in Europe for several years but looking at the US for family reasons, have heard colleagues have recently made the jump across the pond but noone I know personally. I have a full ATPL (our version of your ATP) with around 3k hrs, almost all on medium jets doing airline flying (I guess you guys would call it 121 time), but as I understand it I'd need a CTP and an ATP checkride + written to 'convert' to the FAA world. That's quite expensive to do on your own with no guarantee of work.
I see SkyWest offer to do the CTP for new joiners, so am I correct to think you could join and do the CTP + FAA ATP checkride with the airline directly? Would they make you pay for that?
Also, do you know if time flying in European airlines would count towards any 'Part 121' reqs.?
Would they even consider a European 'alien' given all the 'local' applicants??
Thanks and Happy 4th of July!
I see SkyWest offer to do the CTP for new joiners, so am I correct to think you could join and do the CTP + FAA ATP checkride with the airline directly? Would they make you pay for that?
Also, do you know if time flying in European airlines would count towards any 'Part 121' reqs.?
Would they even consider a European 'alien' given all the 'local' applicants??
Thanks and Happy 4th of July!
#19
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,064
Hi everyone, European guy here! Been flying in Europe for several years but looking at the US for family reasons, have heard colleagues have recently made the jump across the pond but noone I know personally. I have a full ATPL (our version of your ATP) with around 3k hrs, almost all on medium jets doing airline flying (I guess you guys would call it 121 time), but as I understand it I'd need a CTP and an ATP checkride + written to 'convert' to the FAA world. That's quite expensive to do on your own with no guarantee of work.
I see SkyWest offer to do the CTP for new joiners, so am I correct to think you could join and do the CTP + FAA ATP checkride with the airline directly? Would they make you pay for that?
Also, do you know if time flying in European airlines would count towards any 'Part 121' reqs.?
Would they even consider a European 'alien' given all the 'local' applicants??
Thanks and Happy 4th of July!
I see SkyWest offer to do the CTP for new joiners, so am I correct to think you could join and do the CTP + FAA ATP checkride with the airline directly? Would they make you pay for that?
Also, do you know if time flying in European airlines would count towards any 'Part 121' reqs.?
Would they even consider a European 'alien' given all the 'local' applicants??
Thanks and Happy 4th of July!
#20
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Joined APC: Apr 2022
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Your flight experience may make you desirable to an employer but it will not count towards the 1000 hours Part 121 time required to upgrade to PIC of a Part 121 air carrier. The only exemptions are that you can count 500 hours of multi-crew military time or 1000 hours of Part 135 PIC passenger operations time flown in the US.
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