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Old 05-13-2014, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi View Post
So would it be a safe assumption to say that the odds of getting SFO/CRJ are extremely long (long wait in other bases before landing an SFO/CRJ spot), while the odds of getting SFO/EMB shortly after training just got worse/ longer?
Sounds like things maybe tougher on the EMB side until summer draws to a close. But there are a lot of factors right now, so first things first, and then change and adapt as needed.
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Old 05-13-2014, 12:14 PM
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From a management perspective, its better to have 40% plus reserve staffing in such a day to day environment than give out lines, have low reserve staffing, then suddenly be hit hard with cxl and delays timing everyone out. Its a temporary way to control costs.
I think ready reserve was meant to be temporary, too. Hopefully this isn't the new way of doing business. I mean, why have lines at all? If they just keep us all on reserve then it's pretty much unlimited reflows, right?

I give SkyWest credit when appropriate, but this all seems kinda shady to me.
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NVUS View Post
Sounds like things maybe tougher on the EMB side until summer draws to a close. But there are a lot of factors right now, so first things first, and then change and adapt as needed.
So Kfahmi, since you and I won't hit the line October at the earliest, you might be okay. I still recommend CRJ to DEN, CINCHOUSE approved the plan as briefed!
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi View Post
Wow. So, nearly half of SFO Bro crews will be on reserve, and more than half of LAX FOs? :-0

I don't get it. It's not as if any airline could replace the Bros with RJs on those short routes (SFO-SMF, SFO-MRY, SFO-CIC as examples) and make any money. Yet I cannot imagine airline service suspended entirely to communities like CEC or ACV. But what do I know?





You don't know the legacy carriers management very well... They ended up closing the SMF and MRY domiciles because legacy management all of a sudden changed a bunch of the EMB flying to RJ's, this included your SFO-SMF and SFO-MRY examples.
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:30 PM
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What would a new bro pilot prefer now, a pay raise for 2nd year or removing a seat lock from 2 years back to 1? Just saying, upwards of 40% reserves now and losing 10% of airframes in a year (45 to 40). At least being stuck the pay is equal to a 200 I guess, which is equal to just transferring anyways. Oh the tradeoffs of the last pay proposal.
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:31 PM
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Can anyone pro/con the lax, den, iah, living in domicile on RJ reserve situation?
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:08 PM
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You don't know the legacy carriers management very well... They ended up closing the SMF and MRY domiciles because legacy management all of a sudden changed a bunch of the EMB flying to RJ's, this included your SFO-SMF and SFO-MRY examples.
I can't imagine how anyone can make any money on an RJ flying SFO-SMF or SFO-MRY. In a Citation on that route (with a better climb rate than an RJ), you barely have time to climb to 10,000' before it's time to descend again. Given turbofan fuel burns, I have got to think the cost per seat mile on a 55-nm direct route flight in an RJ (OK, maybe 70-80 miles if you add vectoring, approaches etc), is ruinously high. But what do I know?
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Slatsnflaps View Post
Can anyone pro/con the lax, den, iah, living in domicile on RJ reserve situation?
Don't know much about LAX or DEN but in IAH you will need a car.
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi View Post
I can't imagine how anyone can make any money on an RJ flying SFO-SMF or SFO-MRY. In a Citation on that route (with a better climb rate than an RJ), you barely have time to climb to 10,000' before it's time to descend again. Given turbofan fuel burns, I have got to think the cost per seat mile on a 55-nm direct route flight in an RJ (OK, maybe 70-80 miles if you add vectoring, approaches etc), is ruinously high. But what do I know?
Trust me... The sooner you can forget applying any kind of logic about business jet flying to the airlines, the better of you'll be. Otherwise your head will hurt on every trip.
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Slatsnflaps View Post
Can anyone pro/con the lax, den, iah, living in domicile on RJ reserve situation?

Crash pads aren't that far from IAH you'd prolly need a car but cost of living I'm sure is cheaper than lax or den and Houston is a great town in my opinion. Been living in IAH for a month on reserve it's nice and plenty of flying if you want it. Hope you boys like Mexico though... Haha It's not near as bad as people say it is.
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