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Old 04-05-2015, 07:34 PM
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That's the problem. You have to be smarter than bidding off a day in all 7 layers. It's not right, but you have to be creative. Be smarter than the machine.
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Scheduled Sick Day, ect plenty of other names.....
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:41 PM
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That's the problem. You have to be smarter than bidding off a day in all 7 layers. It's not right, but you have to be creative. Be smarter than the machine.
I bid that in layer 1 and then my standard bids in 2-6.
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Old 04-05-2015, 08:10 PM
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I'll bid trips that come back to my base vs. never coming back in on the days I need off. I fondly remember a time when you used to be able to post those partial trips and have other pilots pick it up. I used to worry about what it would look like if I posted it then called in. I give other people a chance to see if it helps them at all. But with everyone maxed out, not many trips get picked up anymore.
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Old 04-05-2015, 08:31 PM
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I'll bid trips that come back to my base vs. never coming back in on the days I need off. I fondly remember a time when you used to be able to post those partial trips and have other pilots pick it up. I used to worry about what it would look like if I posted it then called in. I give other people a chance to see if it helps them at all. But with everyone maxed out, not many trips get picked up anymore.
You do what you gotta do. SKYW refuses to acknowledge that their employees have lives, families and other important stuff to do. They are finding out the hard way, people are going Platinum as a way to insure they get to do the necessary life things. My fond memories started fading about the time of Chimps unholy rise they are like a star at the edge of the universe, distant and dim. I expect that vacations will be cancelled this summer, and the mighty EFB notification will not save them from their incompetence.
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Old 04-05-2015, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter View Post
If you want a day off in the middle of a work block, get creative. Otherwise you must alter your normal bid. Bid trips that start late the day after or finish late the day before. Or just go platinum, that has the best success. Bid as normal then do what you gotta do.
You shouldn't have to get creative when you're only request is one specific day either way it didn't matter in the end.
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Old 04-06-2015, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned View Post
I'll bid trips that come back to my base vs. never coming back in on the days I need off. I fondly remember a time when you used to be able to post those partial trips and have other pilots pick it up. I used to worry about what it would look like if I posted it then called in. I give other people a chance to see if it helps them at all. But with everyone maxed out, not many trips get picked up anymore.
Yeah be careful leaving a long paper trail leading up to a sick call...vacation fail, golden day fail, bid fail, attempt drop fail, post fail, then ask CP for the day off. If you call in sick after all of that somebody might notice. I suspect they're getting to the point where there will be pushback (later this year!). The company is seriously considering requiring a Doc's note from pilots...apparently this is due to a few folks going way over-the-top with sick calls, not the majority who very occasionally do what they gotta do.

Another option...FMLA. You need to take at least four consecutive days (could include scheduled days off), need a doctor to sign the form, but it completely blocks any and all pushback or repercussions. I think they cannot even count against your reliability score, per federal law "it never happened". You can do it as many times as you need, in 4-day increments, until you use up all your FMLA for the year. I'm 99% sure you can do the paperwork after the fact too.

But if it's a day off you know in advance you're going to need, golden days have always worked for me and we get five now.

As long as we're on this subject....word to the noobs, don't use travel bennies including JS, while out sick. Some airlines turn them off, although SKW does not. Problem is if somebody ever decided to care (they haven't yet but might soon), you left a paper trail indicating you weren't that sick after all. If you have to travel, buy a ticket on a non-affiliated airline.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Yeah be careful leaving a long paper trail leading up to a sick call...vacation fail, golden day fail, bid fail, attempt drop fail, post fail, then ask CP for the day off. If you call in sick after all of that somebody might notice. I suspect they're getting to the point where there will be pushback (later this year!). The company is seriously considering requiring a Doc's note from pilots...apparently this is due to a few folks going way over-the-top with sick calls, not the majority who very occasionally do what they gotta do.

Another option...FMLA. You need to take at least four consecutive days (could include scheduled days off), need a doctor to sign the form, but it completely blocks any and all pushback or repercussions. I think they cannot even count against your reliability score, per federal law "it never happened". You can do it as many times as you need, in 4-day increments, until you use up all your FMLA for the year. I'm 99% sure you can do the paperwork after the fact too.

But if it's a day off you know in advance you're going to need, golden days have always worked for me and we get five now.

As long as we're on this subject....word to the noobs, don't use travel bennies including JS, while out sick. Some airlines turn them off, although SKW does not. Problem is if somebody ever decided to care (they haven't yet but might soon), you left a paper trail indicating you weren't that sick after all. If you have to travel, buy a ticket on a non-affiliated airline.
The only traveling I would do would be going back to my home while out sick. I took several Emergency days after my father passed away to take care of estate and had no problems.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
It's the internet. He can say stuff like that if he wants, just like if he was at a bar with his buddies. No need to be so spring loaded.

Different story at work of course, but this isn't work. This one of those places where people come to let off steam after spending the work day dealing with stifling and frustrating policies and personalities.
Glad you get it Rick! This isn't work, I'm a total professional at work and I was trying to explain reflow and have a little fun... I thought it was funny, sorry to those of you who were offended and took it seriously..btw, hooking up with friends in different cities is NOT a crime and to compare it to sexual harassment is so far off base...
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by moflyer View Post
The only traveling I would do would be going back to my home while out sick. I took several Emergency days after my father passed away to take care of estate and had no problems.

Yes, no problem returning home when sick.

Emergency call also no problem traveling to deal with the emergency...but keep in mind that they can ask for details about the emergency. Might be an awkward conversation if you non-revved to Bangkok. Best save the emergency calls (which they're very accommodating about) for real emergencies.
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Old 04-06-2015, 02:10 PM
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By the way, how do you request Golden Days? I can't find the link on SP....
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