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#9822
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
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I ran the numbers on the new pay proposal. For the amount I typically work, with the per diem & pay increase and essential decrease in compensation via reduction of 401k match through vesting %, I would make the same with or without the new contract. There is nothing in it for me to lock myself into a four year agreement with a zero sum gain. I urge everyone to do your own assessment.
#9823
If the Skywest pilots vote no, what's to stop the company from simply implementing whatever they want?
#9825
Don't take my statements as a supporter of a "yes" vote, but without NMB/RLA it doesn't really matter, management can simply do what they feel is necessary.
#9826
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 362
Management is driven by ego. They've thwarted Union drives in the past so they can do it again, at least in their minds. It sounds like this is more of a play to prospective pilots, getting "meat in the seat" so to speak. Skywest knows they're heavily weighted with 50 seaters, UAL just announced more 50 seaters being parked in 2016 as leases come up. Without a steady flow of new-hires due to stagnation as they park more airplanes Skywest will become less attractive during the RFP process.
#9827
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 611
Management is driven by ego. They've thwarted Union drives in the past so they can do it again, at least in their minds. It sounds like this is more of a play to prospective pilots, getting "meat in the seat" so to speak. Skywest knows they're heavily weighted with 50 seaters, UAL just announced more 50 seaters being parked in 2016 as leases come up. Without a steady flow of new-hires due to stagnation as they park more airplanes Skywest will become less attractive during the RFP process.
Don't take my statements as a supporter of a "yes" vote, but without NMB/RLA it doesn't really matter, management can simply do what they feel is necessary.
Don't take my statements as a supporter of a "yes" vote, but without NMB/RLA it doesn't really matter, management can simply do what they feel is necessary.
#9828
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,544
As far as I'm aware expressjet is not properly staffed, Even though they are losing airplanes their attrition is making up for it (last I heard 70 a month to I'm sure nevets will rah rah Union in a sec and give a better number . I think this will be more parking of 145s for tsa and expressjet than our 200s. Apparently were cheaper than expressjet, so that makes us the clear choice providing we can staff which so far we are (need more reserves in some bases)
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#9829
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
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Skywest
CRJ2 is making money (lots of it). You don't park planes that make money unless someone wants you to fly planes that make even more money (and the E-175 is not it...yet). Why else did SkyWest just grow by 12 CRJ2s for Delta? I know, I know, every industry pundit and pilot and CEO wants to tell you the 50-seaters are gas hogs and money losers and they can't get rid of them fast enough. And yet, they are still going. If the CRJ2 is a money loser, then Air Wisconsin is going to be feeling the heat long before SkyWest will.
There will probably be a market for about 400 fifty seat aircraft industry wide once it's all said and done.
As far as I'm aware expressjet is not properly staffed, Even though they are losing airplanes their attrition is making up for it (last I heard 70 a month to I'm sure nevets will rah rah Union in a sec and give a better number . I think this will be more parking of 145s for tsa and expressjet than our 200s. Apparently were cheaper than expressjet, so that makes us the clear choice providing we can staff which so far we are (need more reserves in some bases)
And we can ALL be cheaper together but certain people don't want that. The last aircraft that will be parked are Skywest owned aircraft. And that includes zero 145s.
Was that rah rah good enough?
#9830
Some good information although a little dated. I copied and pasted a portion I thought to be interesting from page 20. http://inc.skywest.com/invest/Annual...s/10k-2013.pdf
SkyWest Airlines
’
employees are not currently represented by any union; however, collective
bargaining group organization efforts among those employees occur from time to time. Such efforts will
likely continue in the future and may ultimately result in some or all of SkyWest Airlines
’
employees
being represented by one or more unions. Moreover, one or more unions representing ExpressJet
employees may seek a single carrier determination by the National Mediation Board, which could
require SkyWest Airlines to recognize such union or unions as the certified bargaining representative of
SkyWest Airlines
’
employees. One or more unions representing ExpressJet employees may also assert
that SkyWest Airlines
’
employees should be subject to ExpressJet
’
s collective bargaining agreements. If
SkyWest Airlines
’
employees were to unionize or be deemed to be represented by one or more unions,
negotiations with unions representing SkyWest Airlines
’
employees could divert management attention
and disrupt operations, which may result in increased operating expenses and may negatively impact
our financial results. Moreover, we cannot predict the outcome of any future negotiations relating to
union representation or collective bargaining agreements. Agreements reached in collective bargaining
may increase our operating expenses and negatively impact our financial results.
SkyWest Airlines
’
employees are not currently represented by any union; however, collective
bargaining group organization efforts among those employees occur from time to time. Such efforts will
likely continue in the future and may ultimately result in some or all of SkyWest Airlines
’
employees
being represented by one or more unions. Moreover, one or more unions representing ExpressJet
employees may seek a single carrier determination by the National Mediation Board, which could
require SkyWest Airlines to recognize such union or unions as the certified bargaining representative of
SkyWest Airlines
’
employees. One or more unions representing ExpressJet employees may also assert
that SkyWest Airlines
’
employees should be subject to ExpressJet
’
s collective bargaining agreements. If
SkyWest Airlines
’
employees were to unionize or be deemed to be represented by one or more unions,
negotiations with unions representing SkyWest Airlines
’
employees could divert management attention
and disrupt operations, which may result in increased operating expenses and may negatively impact
our financial results. Moreover, we cannot predict the outcome of any future negotiations relating to
union representation or collective bargaining agreements. Agreements reached in collective bargaining
may increase our operating expenses and negatively impact our financial results.
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