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#9882
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: CRJ
Posts: 249
I'd rather try (and have). But the futility is hard to ignore...I've come to the conclusion that the only solution is to GTFO and leave the lifers to take their chances. The regional system has been carefully bred and evolved to function exactly the way it does. The only way to win is to not play...bonus points if you know (without google) where that quote came from .
#9883
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 613
If that information was known, then maybe our pilot group would realize they are going to have to increase 1st year pay to get people here regardless if we vote for it. Keeping us in the dark allows them to let us think we are a 3% pay increase away from being the next Comair. We don't want to look at other departments and realize there are several ways that we could save 10-15% and improve our QOL, but that would require us to do it a different way. SGU has just decided to stop working with the pilot group as a partner and would rather just send out emails to subtly keep the pressure on us, while CC sends Forbes an email telling them how safety is our #1 priority.
#9884
Brutal week for attrition. Lost 21 pilots this week. Only 4 Captains but 17 FO's. 10 of those FO's were in training. Does it matter if we are filling our classes if we are losing so many before they hit the line?? And how much is this costing the company to waste the time spent on training when we are not getting any ROI on these pilots?
March was the first month in awhile where we lost more FO's than CA's (21 CA vs 24 FO), but so far this month we are losing 2 FO's for every CA (15 CA vs 29 FO) My estimates show about 250 hired, but it looks like we have lost a total of 170 pilots since the beginning of the year, so a net gain of around 80. Again, these are just what I have been able to gather but by no means are the 100% accurate since the company or SAPA doesn't provide these numbers consistently.
March was the first month in awhile where we lost more FO's than CA's (21 CA vs 24 FO), but so far this month we are losing 2 FO's for every CA (15 CA vs 29 FO) My estimates show about 250 hired, but it looks like we have lost a total of 170 pilots since the beginning of the year, so a net gain of around 80. Again, these are just what I have been able to gather but by no means are the 100% accurate since the company or SAPA doesn't provide these numbers consistently.
#9885
Wild ass question: chances of a new hire getting SFO right away? Can I request it as part of being hired, getting it in writing? I am a returning 121 older pilot, not a hobbyist, but have to stay in the bay area. Commuting is really not an option. Thought of Compass where I'd supposedly be a near street hire captain, but would have to commute to LAX. Also, Skywest needs to do the $30-$36 hour first year pay to get me in. Considering the business acumen I've seen, heard, or read about the regionals, my base request and money expectations probably wouldn't line up, no matter how badly they need to get any pilots in the door.
#9886
I'd rather try (and have). But the futility is hard to ignore...I've come to the conclusion that the only solution is to GTFO and leave the lifers to take their chances. The regional system has been carefully bred and evolved to function exactly the way it does. The only way to win is to not play...bonus points if you know (without google) where that quote came from .
#9888
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
I'd rather try (and have). But the futility is hard to ignore...I've come to the conclusion that the only solution is to GTFO and leave the lifers to take their chances. The regional system has been carefully bred and evolved to function exactly the way it does. The only way to win is to not play...bonus points if you know (without google) where that quote came from .
It sounds like something out of The Matrix. But I get what you are saying. My only thing is that while you are there, you might as well try. Just education makes a difference.
#9889
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,202
Wild ass question: chances of a new hire getting SFO right away? Can I request it as part of being hired, getting it in writing? I am a returning 121 older pilot, not a hobbyist, but have to stay in the bay area. Commuting is really not an option. Thought of Compass where I'd supposedly be a near street hire captain, but would have to commute to LAX. Also, Skywest needs to do the $30-$36 hour first year pay to get me in. Considering the business acumen I've seen, heard, or read about the regionals, my base request and money expectations probably wouldn't line up, no matter how badly they need to get any pilots in the door.
#9890
Wild ass question: chances of a new hire getting SFO right away? Can I request it as part of being hired, getting it in writing? I am a returning 121 older pilot, not a hobbyist, but have to stay in the bay area. Commuting is really not an option. Thought of Compass where I'd supposedly be a near street hire captain, but would have to commute to LAX. Also, Skywest needs to do the $30-$36 hour first year pay to get me in. Considering the business acumen I've seen, heard, or read about the regionals, my base request and money expectations probably wouldn't line up, no matter how badly they need to get any pilots in the door.
It was common in the past for folks to go to mesa, hoping for a certain equipment/base and then simply walk out of training if they didn't get it. You could always do that. A better option, given all the movement, would be take what you get and then bid into SFO in a month or three. If the music stops for some reason and you got stuck in MSP you could always quit.
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