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Theswede 02-05-2015 05:37 PM

Skywest vs PSA
 
Hello,

I'm very active and read a lot on this forum, but I rarely write since I'm currently not flying for airline. I got offers from both Skywest and PSA but can't really make up my mind, and would like to ask for your advice. I'm interested in Compass but they haven't called.

Skywest pros: good training, better FO pay, seems to be a good group of people, more west coast (I currently live in LA, might move if I have to).

Cons: slow upgrade, by reading the Skywest-thread it appears that schedule/QOL is getting worse.

PSA pros: seems to be doing well filling classes, quick upgrade, short reserve, being able to drop trips to 65h and then pick up premium pay.

Cons: gotta move across country/commute with no chance of west coast base, worse place to get stuck at as FO than Skywest, appears to have lots of people fail the training (not sure how true last one is).


Input?

tothebigblue 02-05-2015 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Theswede (Post 1820162)
Hello,

I'm very active and read a lot on this forum, but I rarely write since I'm currently not flying for airline. I got offers from both Skywest and PSA but can't really make up my mind, and would like to ask for your advice. I'm interested in Compass but they haven't called.

Skywest pros: good training, better FO pay, seems to be a good group of people, more west coast (I currently live in LA, might move if I have to).

Cons: slow upgrade, by reading the Skywest-thread it appears that schedule/QOL is getting worse.

PSA pros: seems to be doing well filling classes, quick upgrade, short reserve, being able to drop trips to 65h and then pick up premium pay.

Cons: gotta move across country/commute with no chance of west coast base, worse place to get stuck at as FO than Skywest, appears to have lots of people fail the training (not sure how true last one is).


Input?

you still have to get 1000 jet before you can do ANYTHING upgrade wise. sure PSA you can get that but where will the company be when you actually get to the 1000? Wait for the compass call. Living in base and being at an airline trumps commuting plus you'll be part of the union which is better than being non union and not protected. you can drop trips at any airline, how you're paid and how you can drop and pick up trips as well as bid is big deal. good thing with this time in the industry is you can "shop" for an airline. i like having 3 options to compare rather going on a 50/50 shot. best of luck and keep applying everywhere!

prior121 02-05-2015 05:44 PM

Better question, do you want to be a regional FO in 5 years or a mainline FO at American Airlines?

Bzzt 02-05-2015 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by prior121 (Post 1820167)
Better question, do you want to be a regional FO in 5 years or a mainline FO at American Airlines?

Don't be disingenuous. A PSA new hire will not be at AA in 5 years unless they make it in the front door.

rickair7777 02-05-2015 05:49 PM

Compass.
......

tothebigblue 02-05-2015 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by prior121 (Post 1820167)
Better question, do you want to be a regional FO in 5 years or a mainline FO at American Airlines?

then go to envoy....

Bzzt 02-05-2015 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by tothebigblue (Post 1820174)
then go to envoy....

Talk about bad advice.

ThreeStripe 02-05-2015 05:57 PM

I congratulate you for doing your homework. You need to ask yourself this question: "if I do get stuck at this place for the rest of my career, is this a good place to be?". You do not know what the future will hold and you do not want to start over at first year pay. Pick the place that offers the best QOL today (it may change in the future, but without a crystal ball, you have to go with what you see today). My advice is Sky West, but you need to decide.

Theswede 02-05-2015 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by tothebigblue (Post 1820165)
you still have to get 1000 jet before you can do ANYTHING upgrade wise. sure PSA you can get that but where will the company be when you actually get to the 1000? Wait for the compass call. Living in base and being at an airline trumps commuting plus you'll be part of the union which is better than being non union and not protected. you can drop trips at any airline, how you're paid and how you can drop and pick up trips as well as bid is big deal. good thing with this time in the industry is you can "shop" for an airline. i like having 3 options to compare rather going on a 50/50 shot. best of luck and keep applying everywhere!

That is correct. I do not have any previous 121 experience so I'd need the 1000 before upgrade. To be honest I'm not sure I'd be comfortable upgrading that fast anyway..


Originally Posted by prior121 (Post 1820167)
Better question, do you want to be a regional FO in 5 years or a mainline FO at American Airlines?

My long term goal is to get to the majors.

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1820172)
Compass.
......

I recognize you from the Skywest-thread. Do you see things getting even worse from here? Do you think staffing problem will add to this?


Originally Posted by ThreeStripe (Post 1820180)
I congratulate you for doing your homework. You need to ask yourself this question: "if I do get stuck at this place for the rest of my career, is this a good place to be?". You do not know what the future will hold and you do not want to start over at first year pay. Pick the place that offers the best QOL today (it may change in the future, but without a crystal ball, you have to go with what you see today). My advice is Sky West, but you need to decide.

Thank you, I truly appreciate your advice.

motormadness 02-05-2015 06:07 PM

Attention FaceBiter: Please inform the OP how SkyWest is the best because you are the best and everybody wants to be like you.

Thank You


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