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iahflyr 08-10-2015 03:59 PM

Skywest pilots raise?
 
I heard a rumor that Skywest pilots got a raise to either $30.50 an hour or $36.50 an hour? Is it true? Which one is it?


Please do not refer me to the 15,000 plus page post on Skywest for the answer. Major news stories like these should be broken into their own thread. I don't have hundreds of hours to waste reading every thread, and I hope you don't either.

CloudShredder 08-10-2015 04:03 PM

Yes. $30.00 an hour.

WhoCares 08-10-2015 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 1947092)
I heard a rumor that Skywest pilots got a raise to either $30.50 an hour or $36.50 an hour? Is it true? Which one is it?


Please do not refer me to the 15,000 plus page post on Skywest for the answer. Major news stories like these should be broken into their own thread. I don't have hundreds of hours to waste reading every thread, and I hope you don't either.

Meow.

You could have just asked in the 15,000 page thread where someone would have answered you there.

Special is as special does.





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Squallrider 08-10-2015 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by WhoCares (Post 1947110)
Meow.

You could have just asked in the 15,000 page thread where someone would have answered you there.

Special is as special does.





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It's both, 30$ for now, $36.50 at company discretion without a new TA if they can't find enough people

disillusioned 08-10-2015 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 1947138)
It's both, 30$ for now, $36.50 at company discretion without a new TA if they can't find enough people

Nope. On our new deal we signed in, we gave the company the right to negotiate a first year deal directly with SAPA. No longer does a first year increase go out to pilot wide vote. Now all they have to do is just get SAPA to sign off on any increase. And history has proven that a majority of SAPA wants to do what is best for the company, not necessarily the pilots.

Squallrider 08-10-2015 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by disillusioned (Post 1947163)
Nope. On our new deal we signed in, we gave the company the right to negotiate a first year deal directly with SAPA. No longer does a first year increase go out to pilot wide vote. Now all they have to do is just get SAPA to sign off on any increase. And history has proven that a majority of SAPA wants to do what is best for the company, not necessarily the pilots.

Mm the way I read it was they can increase to 36.50 without asking.

disillusioned 08-10-2015 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 1947165)
Mm the way I read it was they can increase to 36.50 without asking.

They can increase to $36.50 without asking. I'm saying that before first year pay was always part of the TA. In our latest deal, we gave away the right to vote on any first year pay increase. So management can increase to $36.50, but in the past they would have to have the pilots vote if they wanted to go higher. Now they just have to get SAPA to agree, and we know how difficult that will be....

NVUS 08-10-2015 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by disillusioned (Post 1947167)
They can increase to $36.50 without asking. I'm saying that before first year pay was always part of the TA. In our latest deal, we gave away the right to vote on any first year pay increase. So management can increase to $36.50, but in the past they would have to have the pilots vote if they wanted to go higher. Now they just have to get SAPA to agree, and we know how difficult that will be....

Well at some point first year pay will be unable to surpass second year pay, so I think you're safe.

rcfd13 08-10-2015 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by NVUS (Post 1947195)
Well at some point first year pay will be unable to surpass second year pay, so I think you're safe.

First year pay does surpass second year pay and beyond if you assume they raise it to $36.50 and still offer new hires the $7500 bonus. If all options are exercised that would make first year pay pretty close to 8th year top out pay.

WaterRooster 08-11-2015 12:50 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 1947092)
I heard a rumor that Skywest pilots got a raise to either $30.50 an hour or $36.50 an hour? Is it true? Which one is it?


Please do not refer me to the 15,000 plus page post on Skywest for the answer. Major news stories like these should be broken into their own thread. I don't have hundreds of hours to waste reading every thread, and I hope you don't either.

I feel there is an opinion that when you press it a box comes up. In this box you are able to type words that may result in an answer if you push the button called "search". It's a magical thing, rarely seen by outsiders, yet when used produces results no one would have expected! Haha

Squallrider 08-11-2015 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by disillusioned (Post 1947167)
They can increase to $36.50 without asking. I'm saying that before first year pay was always part of the TA. In our latest deal, we gave away the right to vote on any first year pay increase. So management can increase to $36.50, but in the past they would have to have the pilots vote if they wanted to go higher. Now they just have to get SAPA to agree, and we know how difficult that will be....

We had a similar provision in previous TA that allowed them to increase from $22 to $24 without a vote.

disillusioned 08-11-2015 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 1947268)
We had a similar provision in previous TA that allowed them to increase from $22 to $24 without a vote.

Sorry I think I am not being very clear. In our expiring TA, we had a $22-$24 range. That expired and that is why the company was so eager to get a new deal done. In the new TA we just signed, we agreed to let the company pay first year $30 and raise it to $36.50 during the TA period. But hidden in the language was if the company wants to go above $36.50, they no longer need to add it to a TA and have the pilots vote on it. They simply just have to have SAPA sign off on the increase.

As NVUS mentioned, once it gets much more than that, it will start to be the same as 2nd year pay. However, the company can just decide to do signing bonuses. These signing bonuses will make first year pay more than most of our FO's get paid. The company has decided and 60% of our pilots agree, that new hires deserve way more of our profits than the pilots that have been here for years.

Planedrive 08-11-2015 09:46 AM

What was the pay increase for everyone else?

NVUS 08-11-2015 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Planedrive (Post 1947476)
What was the pay increase for everyone else?

1.5% upon ratification, and another 1.5% on Jan. 1, 2017.

Check Complete 08-11-2015 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by NVUS (Post 1947486)
1.5% upon ratification, and another 1.5% on Jan. 1, 2017.


And we showed the industry just what a well unified pilot group can do during this giant economic melt down, dwindling airline profits, massive pilot glut and looming furloughs!

I hold my head high with pride as I go through the McDonlalds drive through with the extra 20 bucks a check I now receive!

myoface 08-11-2015 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Planedrive (Post 1947476)
What was the pay decrease after inflation for everyone else?

There....fixed it for ya

NVUS 08-11-2015 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 1947557)
And we showed the industry just what a well unified pilot group can do during this giant economic melt down, dwindling airline profits, massive pilot glut and looming furloughs!

I hold my head high with pride as I go through the McDonlalds drive through with the extra 20 bucks a check I now receive!

Speaking of McDonald's, the first year fry jockies will be making $15/hr in 2017. That's $31,000 a year. Or a little more than a first year FO. Those burgers are gonna get expensive.

clearprop 08-11-2015 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 1947092)
I heard a rumor that Skywest pilots got a raise to either $30.50 an hour or $36.50 an hour? Is it true? Which one is it?


Please do not refer me to the 15,000 plus page post on Skywest for the answer. Major news stories like these should be broken into their own thread. I don't have hundreds of hours to waste reading every thread, and I hope you don't either.

Let me guess.....entitlement generation or retired AF brass?

Bmor 08-12-2015 07:03 AM

SkyWest 1st Year Pay $30/hr??
 
Long time lurker, but had to join to ask about this. I have heard that SkyWest now has $30/hr. for first year pay? I have seen rumblings about this on the SkyWest thread, can any SkyWesters confirm that this is what was passed with your pay agreement?

If it is true, does the $30/hr start in training, or is training at a different rate?

Currently flying with a part 135 operation that is less than desirable for me.

Thanks for the community support guys.

Blue Skies,

Bmor

Squallrider 08-12-2015 07:08 AM

Yes that is correct. $30 a hour from day one, training guarantee is 65 hours, then after your LOFT (end of sim it goes up to 75/76 hours).

Sign on bonus if you have a type rating in CL-65 or Emb175 (not 100% sure on 175).

Theres another thread on this as well. Company could raise first year pay to $36.50 without a new TA passing.

CBreezy 08-12-2015 07:09 AM

If only there was a thread discussing this exact subject half way down the first page.

Bmor 08-12-2015 07:11 AM

Sorry, I didn't see that thread until you said something about it.

But I do really appreciate the replies.

Bmor 08-13-2015 07:23 AM

App has been submitted. Hoping to see you guys in the flight deck.


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