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Old 11-08-2016, 06:36 PM
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Having issues with Skywest agents in YYJ regarding the JS. Would like to share my experience with the JS coordinator from Skywest.

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My problem is that I can and have, used a JS pass to ride in the back on international flights dozens of times. In fact, I have ridden on Skywest from SEA-CYYJ before. And I rode it on the very same RJ which (according to the agents in YYJ), "Has no jumpseat". I have used a JS pass to ride on international routes on more than one US based airline, as long I sat in the back.

My problem is that the agents in YYJ think that they own the jumpseat and lie and obfuscate because they are either blissfully uninformed or willfully belligerent. As far as I know, international JS only prevents cockpit access, not a seat in the back.

My problem is that I am tired of agents deciding who gets to ride, not the Captain.
This is just one more example.

My problem is with clueless idiots and sycophants.

My problem is with guys allowing damn near anyone to usurp their authority.

Many thanks for your thoughtful reply.

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Sorry to hear about that Mako, it's hard to grasp for most crews to remember that there maybe non revs trying to get on while we're at an Intl outstation. I know there's been more talk about taking a walk up to the gate to check that we're not leaving folks but that's only on our internal boards.
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Originally Posted by oldmako View Post
My problem is that I can and have, used a JS pass to ride in the back on international flights dozens of times. In fact, I have ridden on Skywest from SEA-CYYJ before. And I rode it on the very same RJ which (according to the agents in YYJ), "Has no jumpseat". I have used a JS pass to ride on international routes on more than one US based airline, as long I sat in the back.

My problem is that the agents in YYJ think that they own the jumpseat and lie and obfuscate because they are either blissfully uninformed or willfully belligerent. As far as I know, international JS only prevents cockpit access, not a seat in the back.

My problem is that I am tired of agents deciding who gets to ride, not the Captain.
This is just one more example.

My problem is with clueless idiots and sycophants.

My problem is with guys allowing damn near anyone to usurp their authority.

Many thanks for your thoughtful reply.
Protocol would be for you to reach out to your jumpseat coordinator who then in turn would reach out to the OO js coordinator, not for you to contact them directly. Be advised though, there are multiple regional airlines that DO NOT have reciprocal international (cabin) js privileges, even if "you've done it before".
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Originally Posted by oldmako View Post
My problem is that I can and have, used a JS pass to ride in the back on international flights dozens of times. In fact, I have ridden on Skywest from SEA-CYYJ before. And I rode it on the very same RJ which (according to the agents in YYJ), "Has no jumpseat". I have used a JS pass to ride on international routes on more than one US based airline, as long I sat in the back.

My problem is that the agents in YYJ think that they own the jumpseat and lie and obfuscate because they are either blissfully uninformed or willfully belligerent. As far as I know, international JS only prevents cockpit access, not a seat in the back.

My problem is that I am tired of agents deciding who gets to ride, not the Captain.
This is just one more example.

My problem is with clueless idiots and sycophants.

My problem is with guys allowing damn near anyone to usurp their authority.

Many thanks for your thoughtful reply.
Right on.
Hope the situation gets back to the gate agent.
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Wow, you sound like a real nice guy. Makes me wonder why the gate agents would give you any flack....

If you do in touch with OO directly, please make sure you address your email in the same tone. That will go over well!

Have you ever made a good post in your life? He has some legitimate gripes. Canadian gate agents can be extremely difficult making commutes difficult.
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First, to a Canadian gate agent never tell them you want the jumpseat.. they dont know that term. Tell them you have a reciprocal agreement and would like to get added to the wait list for the flight...
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Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 View Post
Protocol would be for you to reach out to your jumpseat coordinator who then in turn would reach out to the OO js coordinator, not for you to contact them directly. Be advised though, there are multiple regional airlines that DO NOT have reciprocal international (cabin) js privileges, even if "you've done it before".
If OO is a carrier that doesn't offer reciprocal cabin international jumpseat then they need to be removed from our international list immediately. I have flown numerous OO pilots to and from Europe in the cabin. This needs to be addressed quickly. Will email our JS coordinator for clarification and hopefully he can address the pilot group to let everyone know to stop taking OO pilots on international flights.
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Originally Posted by Lambourne View Post
If OO is a carrier that doesn't offer reciprocal cabin international jumpseat then they need to be removed from our international list immediately. I have flown numerous OO pilots to and from Europe in the cabin. This needs to be addressed quickly. Will email our JS coordinator for clarification and hopefully he can address the pilot group to let everyone know to stop taking OO pilots on international flights.
OO does allow UA jumpseaters (cabin only) on international flights. This is a gate agent issue. Not a SkyWest issue. The YYJ gate agents need to be educated on this. As a SkyWest pilot, I try to go to the gate area before every departure to look for jumpseaters and make sure everyone gets on. In Canada, this can be problematic as we are not supposed to leave the immediate vicinity of the aircraft on turns, but in my future flights to Canada, I will make sure to ask the gate agents if there were any pilots from reciprocal agreement airlines trying to get onboard.
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Oh brother. So we deny all OO jumpseaters because some anonymous person on a public forum says one thing!!??? No wonder Flight info forums went defunk. This is the same crap that was on there..
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