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tausap 12-14-2016 02:17 AM

Skywest guys: Did this Capt do us a dirty?
 
Hey Skywest guys, I am wondering if this Skywest Capt screwed me or if it was out of his control? Yesterday, flying RIC-DEN nonstop on an E-170, the captain told the gate agent "no standbys", including jumpseaters, even though he had 7 seats open and 4 of us waiting to get on the last way to get to DEN for the day. It was due to high headwinds and the weight being more baggage than they expected. I flew on same flight another time with approx same headwinds and they took a full load.

So, my question is, why did he not just tell dispatch they needed to make a fuel stop to take all the pax, or have them offload some bags to get the pax on? Can you not do this there? I know at UAL I have done it several times coming back from Europe on the 757, in order to accommodate all revenue and standby pax when we were weight limited. If he could've done something to get us on, and he didn't, that is lame.

zondaracer 12-14-2016 02:20 AM

I wish you were the captain when I was trying to non-rev out of South America last year. No standbys even though there were 40 seats open. The flight as weight restricted due to high volume of belly cargo.

Softpayman 12-14-2016 02:23 AM

Make a fuel stop so nonrevs can get on? Unlikely.

Geardownflaps30 12-14-2016 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by tausap (Post 2262255)
Hey Skywest guys, I am wondering if this Skywest Capt screwed me or if it was out of his control? Yesterday, flying RIC-DEN nonstop on an E-170, the captain told the gate agent "no standbys", including jumpseaters, even though he had 7 seats open and 4 of us waiting to get on the last way to get to DEN for the day. It was due to high headwinds and the weight being more baggage than they expected. I flew on same flight another time with approx same headwinds and they took a full load.

So, my question is, why did he not just tell dispatch they needed to make a fuel stop to take all the pax, or have them offload some bags to get the pax on? Can you not do this there? I know at UAL I have done it several times coming back from Europe on the 757, in order to accommodate all revenue and standby pax when we were weight limited. If he could've done something to get us on, and he didn't, that is lame.

Not going to happen to accommodate non revs.

pagey 12-14-2016 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by tausap (Post 2262255)

So, my question is, why did he not just tell dispatch they needed to make a fuel stop to take all the pax,

lol........

Squallrider 12-14-2016 03:49 AM

Even if this was true it's most likely due to the new runway data being implemented across the airlines.

Fuel stop is highly unlikely

sailingfun 12-14-2016 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by zondaracer (Post 2262256)
I wish you were the captain when I was trying to non-rev out of South America last year. No standbys even though there were 40 seats open. The flight as weight restricted due to high volume of belly cargo.

So you are saying the Captain should have bumped revenue cargo off the aircraft to accommodate you as a non rev? He would certainly face disciplinary action if he choose to do so and his company would have incurred a substantial loss. Every airline I am aware of using a matrix something like this when weight restricted for deciding what does not go.
Non rev cargo
Non rev bags
Non rev passengers
Revenue cargo
Revenue bags
Revenue passengers

PerfInit 12-14-2016 04:05 AM

Talpa.......

sailingfun 12-14-2016 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by tausap (Post 2262255)
Hey Skywest guys, I am wondering if this Skywest Capt screwed me or if it was out of his control? Yesterday, flying RIC-DEN nonstop on an E-170, the captain told the gate agent "no standbys", including jumpseaters, even though he had 7 seats open and 4 of us waiting to get on the last way to get to DEN for the day. It was due to high headwinds and the weight being more baggage than they expected. I flew on same flight another time with approx same headwinds and they took a full load.

So, my question is, why did he not just tell dispatch they needed to make a fuel stop to take all the pax, or have them offload some bags to get the pax on? Can you not do this there? I know at UAL I have done it several times coming back from Europe on the 757, in order to accommodate all revenue and standby pax when we were weight limited. If he could've done something to get us on, and he didn't, that is lame.

I would be shocked if UAL schedules fuel stops for non revs from Europe. I suspect what happens is they are going to have to make a fuel stop to accommodate revenue passengers. Once a stop is planned there is no point in not putting the non revs on.

TheFly 12-14-2016 04:16 AM

TALPA is seriously effecting landing performance....on paper. What was the FICON report at the destination?


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