TPIC rumor
03-28-2017, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by capt707
Because pilots with no TPIC time are worse pilots than pilots with TPIC time? 
Diversity of and quantity of flight experience as the final authority operating a commercial, transport category aircraft are extremely relevant factors in making up the "quality" of a commercial, transport category pilot.
(And no, these are not exclusive qualities.)
03-28-2017, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
It's mostly the captains that grew up in the old days that are complaining. Sorry I don't have 20,000 hours in an airplane that hates to descend and slow down that we put an arbitrary speed brake restriction on (every other carrier can use them up to flaps 5).
I was blessed to fly with some very cool, patient, and understanding captains my first year. Most of them were new captains themselves. A few go arounds and three years later and I think I almost have the hang of flying this contraption. Almost.
I was blessed to fly with some very cool, patient, and understanding captains my first year. Most of them were new captains themselves. A few go arounds and three years later and I think I almost have the hang of flying this contraption. Almost.
03-28-2017, 03:09 PM
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Update to earlier post:
I received confirmation that 1,000 TPIC preferred is in effect now. Furthermore I heard that SWA currently has 2,400 qualified applicants on file whereas in the past they have typically had 6,000 qualified applicants on file.
I've heard consistently for a while now from multiple sources that the target is 11,000-12,000 pilots on the master seniority list 5 years from now. I'd normally call B.S. but when you consider the following it seems to support this statement:
1) New international terminal in FLL
2) New international terminal in HOU
3) Major terminal expansion in PHX
4) Major terminal expansion in LAX
5) Major training capacity expansion in DAL
6) Extremely high new hire numbers
Following the flow of money indicates there's merit to the rumored ~11,000 pilot seniority list
I received confirmation that 1,000 TPIC preferred is in effect now. Furthermore I heard that SWA currently has 2,400 qualified applicants on file whereas in the past they have typically had 6,000 qualified applicants on file.
I've heard consistently for a while now from multiple sources that the target is 11,000-12,000 pilots on the master seniority list 5 years from now. I'd normally call B.S. but when you consider the following it seems to support this statement:
1) New international terminal in FLL
2) New international terminal in HOU
3) Major terminal expansion in PHX
4) Major terminal expansion in LAX
5) Major training capacity expansion in DAL
6) Extremely high new hire numbers
Following the flow of money indicates there's merit to the rumored ~11,000 pilot seniority list
03-28-2017, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Sr. Barco
Update to earlier post:
I received confirmation that 1,000 TPIC preferred is in effect now. Furthermore I heard that SWA currently has 2,400 qualified applicants on file whereas in the past they have typically had 6,000 qualified applicants on file.
I've heard consistently for a while now from multiple sources that the target is 11,000-12,000 pilots on the master seniority list 5 years from now. I'd normally call B.S. but when you consider the following it seems to support this statement:
1) New international terminal in FLL
2) New international terminal in HOU
3) Major terminal expansion in PHX
4) Major terminal expansion in LAX
5) Major training capacity expansion in DAL
6) Extremely high new hire numbers
Following the flow of money indicates there's merit to the rumored ~11,000 pilot seniority list
I received confirmation that 1,000 TPIC preferred is in effect now. Furthermore I heard that SWA currently has 2,400 qualified applicants on file whereas in the past they have typically had 6,000 qualified applicants on file.
I've heard consistently for a while now from multiple sources that the target is 11,000-12,000 pilots on the master seniority list 5 years from now. I'd normally call B.S. but when you consider the following it seems to support this statement:
1) New international terminal in FLL
2) New international terminal in HOU
3) Major terminal expansion in PHX
4) Major terminal expansion in LAX
5) Major training capacity expansion in DAL
6) Extremely high new hire numbers
Following the flow of money indicates there's merit to the rumored ~11,000 pilot seniority list
Any idea what was meant by "qualified" in that 2,400 number? Assuming it's 1000 TPIC. Regardless, if they want to hire ~700 this year and ~1000 next year, that's over 2/3 of the supposedly qualified applicant pool in just 2 years. If that's the case, makes sense to drop the hard 1000 TPIC requirement.
03-28-2017, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorHog
That's huge news about the TPIC if true. FWIW they said at WAI they expect ~12,000 pilots within 10 years.
Any idea what was meant by "qualified" in that 2,400 number? Assuming it's 1000 TPIC. Regardless, if they want to hire ~700 this year and ~1000 next year, that's over 2/3 of the supposedly qualified applicant pool in just 2 years. If that's the case, makes sense to drop the hard 1000 TPIC requirement.
Any idea what was meant by "qualified" in that 2,400 number? Assuming it's 1000 TPIC. Regardless, if they want to hire ~700 this year and ~1000 next year, that's over 2/3 of the supposedly qualified applicant pool in just 2 years. If that's the case, makes sense to drop the hard 1000 TPIC requirement.
I don't know what they mean by "qualified." Guys with F-16 time I presume. Joking! I assume it means there are 2,400 on file with 1,000 TPIC. Problem is those same 2,400 are probably on file with AA, DAL, UAL, UPS and FedEx.
03-29-2017, 02:46 AM
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Considering 75% of all 121 major airline pilots hit 65 and retire by 2032. Were talking 1988 1989 numbers again. Every airline having to hire 1000+ just to keep up with retirements. Think about that 4-5K a year combined. I see age 67 then 70 coming within 5 years.
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