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Old 11-01-2019, 11:10 PM
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By drop they mean give away. Someone has to take it.
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Old 11-02-2019, 03:27 AM
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By drop they mean give away. Someone has to take it.

Yes. This is an important distinction because at other airlines there is a mechanism to drop a trip (give it back to the company when staffing allows) but that does not exist at SW.


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Old 11-03-2019, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
Yes. This is an important distinction because at other airlines there is a mechanism to drop a trip (give it back to the company when staffing allows) but that does not exist at SW.


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The only way to do it is via ELITT, and that's not always possible. These days, with near triple digit NZs, the biggest limitation is there being enough trips in ELITT that you're legal for to swap around to get rid of a trip.
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:40 AM
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Wanted to bump this thread as the last post is in late 19’ curious how things are going these days especially for commuters. Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:53 AM
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Things have gotten less flexible. Lines will still be between 12 to 15 days of work a month. The only way to get rid of a trip is to call in sick or know how to bid month to month overlap. Commute ability depends on which city pairs but I have done it for almost 5 years and average 2 to 3 overnights a month on my dime. I averaged about 14 days a month working and average credit per month was about 145 trips per month. I blocked about 700 hours for the year. I am a senior FO and this has been a special year. You accrue sickleave pretty quickly. And with the line bidding vacation can mean 2 1/2 or three weeks off if you bid correctly. Reserve is the least flexible as you could not trade days like you can if you have a normal line. Reserve tends to go Senior on low flying months and Junior on high flying months but there have not been many low-flying months in the last year. Expect to be junior assigned during busy times of the year. Two times a month and two days at a time are legal per our contract. Especially when ‘junior’.

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Old 01-14-2022, 10:41 AM
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Also to add being on reserve you cannot be junior manned. It’s in the contract. As being on reserves for 2.5 years I can share this:

—15 days off minimum
—you will pay for a hotel front or back unless you can catch a redeye home on a PM block.
—with all the changes you will make more then a junior line holder when said and done on credit.
—even 1 week of vacation you can turn it into 2 weeks because weekend reserve blocks touches any block of vacation on two reserves. I promise that, you can’t get more junior then me.
—Usually you will get released from deadheads on your last day as long as it’s a single deadhead back to domicile and you have less then 7 hours of duty left.
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Old 01-15-2022, 04:43 AM
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—even 1 week of vacation you can turn it into 2 weeks because weekend reserve blocks touches any block of vacation on two reserves. I promise that, you can’t get more junior then me.
Two and half weeks...you'll drop two weekend trips, giving you an 18 days block if you have start date purity.
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Old 01-15-2022, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
Yes. This is an important distinction because at other airlines there is a mechanism to drop a trip (give it back to the company when staffing allows) but that does not exist at SW.


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Old 01-15-2022, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BLAHBLAHBLAH View Post
Things have gotten less flexible. Lines will still be between 12 to 15 days of work a month. The only way to get rid of a trip is to call in sick or know how to bid month to month overlap. Commute ability depends on which city pairs but I have done it for almost 5 years and average 2 to 3 overnights a month on my dime. I averaged about 14 days a month working and average credit per month was about 145 trips per month. I blocked about 700 hours for the year. I am a senior FO and this has been a special year. You accrue sickleave pretty quickly. And with the line bidding vacation can mean 2 1/2 or three weeks off if you bid correctly. Reserve is the least flexible as you could not trade days like you can if you have a normal line. Reserve tends to go Senior on low flying months and Junior on high flying months but there have not been many low-flying months in the last year. Expect to be junior assigned during busy times of the year. Two times a month and two days at a time are legal per our contract. Especially when ‘junior’.
There's no trading of reserve days whatsoever?
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Old 01-15-2022, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tlamjaj View Post
There's no trading of reserve days whatsoever?
You can trade between pilots without restriction. There’s no way to trade with the company.
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