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Old 02-02-2024, 05:32 PM
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How are the new Reserve rules in the new CBA by comparison to the old contract and the other majors? Vast improvements or not much change?
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Old 02-02-2024, 06:26 PM
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How are the new Reserve rules in the new CBA by comparison to the old contract and the other majors? Vast improvements or not much change?
A lot better. No LCR but pretty much improved in every other way.
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Old 02-02-2024, 06:29 PM
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How are the new Reserve rules in the new CBA by comparison to the old contract and the other majors? Vast improvements or not much change?
15 minutes extra callout time implemeted at DOR.
short notice callout provisions (premium pay day 1 and close in parking) starts March 1.
LCO pay multiples apply to reserve as of Feb 1.

the other big changes are down the road.
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short notice callout provisions (premium pay day 1 and close in parking) starts March 1.
Close-in parking or Uber Black to/from your house! I'd be all over that to avoid the parking goat rope at my airport.
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Old 02-02-2024, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 View Post
15 minutes extra callout time implemeted at DOR.
short notice callout provisions (premium pay day 1 and close in parking) starts March 1.
LCO pay multiples apply to reserve as of Feb 1.

the other big changes are down the road.
yeah but we also gave them the ability to slide our reserve times so they could get out of that short notice call and all that comes with it.
Who knows how reserve proffer and ELLIT will work but thata not for 2 yrs so who cares.
I wouldnt go to say vastly better but it claws some of the pain back.
Straight senority on reserve call out would have made it go more senior.
Bottom line is if you're on reserve you're going to work
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yeah but we also gave them the ability to slide our reserve times so they could get out of that short notice call and all that comes with it.
no we didn't. They've always had the ability to customize rap times and do it monthly by base. What this CBA did do is lock those times in and add extra pay. You think they are going to burn everyones' duty day by an extra hour just to save the occasional premium pay? I don't. Talk about shooting themselves in their own foot!
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Old 02-03-2024, 06:59 AM
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no we didn't. They've always had the ability to customize rap times and do it monthly by base. What this CBA did do is lock those times in and add extra pay. You think they are going to burn everyones' duty day by an extra hour just to save the occasional premium pay? I don't. Talk about shooting themselves in their own foot!
they've always had the ability to move a 0300 rap to 0230? I didnt know that.
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they've always had the ability to move a 0300 rap to 0230? I didnt know that.
They can’t change your RAP unless it’s a legality issue…supposedly.
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They can’t change your RAP unless it’s a legality issue…supposedly.
Not only that, but the end of the RAP cannot be pushed back, so it will simply make your day shorter if the start has to be adjusted for legality. And it can't be pushed back more than 60 minutes -- any more than that, and you simply get the whole day off, with pay.
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They can’t change your RAP unless it’s a legality issue…supposedly.
so instead of paying premium because the flight doesnt fit a reserve RAP they now can move the RAP so it fits. Genius
There is some stuff in this contract that'll have to fixed in 10 year that wasnt in there a month ago.
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