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Old 08-01-2018, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by French3Holer View Post
The contract is, what the contract is, but this should be changed to 12 months seat lock next contract. It is flat out thievery. Or burglary. Or buggery...
Why not just get rid of the entire seniority system, since it's so unfair, especially to the junior folks?

We could award the good contractual perks to the ones that work the most days at straight pay, call in sick the least, or some other random metric.

That'd be much fairer than using the day you were hired.
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Old 08-01-2018, 04:42 PM
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Why not just get rid of the entire seniority system, since it's so unfair, especially to the junior folks?

We could award the good contractual perks to the ones that work the most days at straight pay, call in sick the least, or some other random metric.

That'd be much fairer than using the day you were hired.
It is a loophole, I get it. One I feel should be closed. Simmer down, Francis. I suggested none of what you are implying.

What are your thoughts on cartels?
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ View Post
LOL. Like that's not another self imposed restriction. If you were bidding your last year of FO vacation you wouldn't think so.
You’re right. Let’s stick with the seat lock option. You bid down, you’re locked until retirement.
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Old 08-02-2018, 08:55 AM
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No restrictions....

If you want to commute and run the risk of not getting back to your home domicile for awhile to bid vacation, then go for it. Restrictions always have unintended consequences.

Thou it will warm my heart to see ATL vacancies in the negative for October...
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Old 08-02-2018, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by French3Holer View Post
It is a loophole, I get it. One I feel should be closed. Simmer down, Francis. I suggested none of what you are implying.
LOL... "A loophole"?

"Simmer Down Francis"?

I'm not the one that suggested that others exercising their contractual seniority rights is akin to "thievery" or "buggery".


What are your thoughts on cartels?
Far more of a boogieman than a reality.

Our attempts at restricting them, as usual, have only hurt the non cartel folks.
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Old 08-03-2018, 06:38 AM
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So from reading through this thread it appears that the Atlanta base slots for pilots has gone from 12 years to 1 year roughly?

I'm currently a pilot in the military and am researching the airlines, so I'm still learning all the terms. I'm not hitting 20 for 3 more years though, so everything is rather speculative for me right now. That being said, I already live in Atlanta so if that is the case it's good news.
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:13 AM
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So from reading through this thread it appears that the Atlanta base slots for pilots has gone from 12 years to 1 year roughly?



I'm currently a pilot in the military and am researching the airlines, so I'm still learning all the terms. I'm not hitting 20 for 3 more years though, so everything is rather speculative for me right now. That being said, I already live in Atlanta so if that is the case it's good news.


The time to get into Atlanta has dropped significantly since the Atlanta seniority list hit the bottom of the former AirTran pilots. A year is a good guess, but seniority movement in ATL will be anemic because nobody is leaving or retiring. PHX and MCO are in similar situations for different reasons.
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Old 08-03-2018, 10:20 AM
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We will see what occurs in PHX with the opening of LAX.
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