Please explain your retro payout
10-22-2017, 04:39 PM
#13
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Posts: 3,429
SWAPA is a funny animal. The contract would have been settled in about 5 days if we could have legally stopped picking up open time. But the union told us not to....so we didn’t.
Not only is the union rightfully scared of getting their asses handed to them in a lawsuit, but they are afraid to show the obvious cracks that would form if we really went to the mat and the koolies had to make an actual choice.
It’s a shame, really. The union leadership is super energized, but there are a large percentage of our members that have never gotten it and never will.
Not only is the union rightfully scared of getting their asses handed to them in a lawsuit, but they are afraid to show the obvious cracks that would form if we really went to the mat and the koolies had to make an actual choice.
It’s a shame, really. The union leadership is super energized, but there are a large percentage of our members that have never gotten it and never will.
10-22-2017, 05:47 PM
#14
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 163
Originally Posted by Ihateusernames
The union never said not to pick up trips. So claim whatever you want. I didn't during any picket because I was at them. That being said, I expected those who were haters to pick up. They are known future scabs. They will hopefully get theirs. Hell out ex-president now works for company labor. He could have a heart attack for all I care. He will get ignored and made fun of just like MS every time he is at the doubletree bar except he didn't **** a secretary. That we know of.
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10-23-2017, 02:47 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,605
Originally Posted by Beans
A fat chewer will always have excuses for his/her behavior. Of course the union wont come out and say “dont pick up open time” because it can be looked at as a job action. What they can say is fly the contract. It doesent take a rocket scientist pilot to figure out that during negotiations you dont whor yourself out. Selfish fat chewers always have a laundry list of excuses so dont wast your time with listing any. We need to make it known to these pilots that their behavior cost the rest of the group holding the line. If you dont have the gumption to call them out then you are part of the problem condoning it.
It’s a sad state of affairs. The RLA needs to go!!!
10-25-2017, 06:57 AM
#16
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,003
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Unfortunately, a union can’t even say “fly the contract” anymore because if that causes any change in status quo then they’re getting sued and the court WILL side in the company's favor.
It’s a sad state of affairs. The RLA needs to go!!!
It’s a sad state of affairs. The RLA needs to go!!!
Most SW pilots can't imagine not working on their days off.
10-25-2017, 10:06 AM
#18
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,003
Originally Posted by Cflapjack
How would a reserve have been paid out if it was actual flying?
10-25-2017, 01:36 PM
#19
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Position: cpt 737
Posts: 2,656
The line of thought that reserves only do something if they're actually flying is getting old. Over the holidays if you're out flying you get a free turkey dinner and something for xmas. Not so if you're sitting away from home not with your family on reserve but didn't actually fly.
10-25-2017, 03:54 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,003
Originally Posted by hoover
The line of thought that reserves only do something if they're actually flying is getting old. Over the holidays if you're out flying you get a free turkey dinner and something for xmas. Not so if you're sitting away from home not with your family on reserve but didn't actually fly.
I agree that the company treats reserve like paid days off, which is why you get less guaranteed tfp per day of reserve vs. a lineholder. The reality is quite different.
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