Cartels at SWA
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Cartels at SWA
I am a noob SWA guy. That being said I understand both sides of the argument for block bidding and see each side. I have heard grumblings of cartels being unfair to the pilots not in them. Can someone experienced at SWA explain both sides of the argument for and against cartels (as much of an unbiased view as possible).
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For cartels? There is a reason that cartels operate in the netherworld of board blocking and double secret trading. Because the stuff they do is shady, undermines seniority, and is generally frowned upon by both the pilots and flight ops management.
Cartel vacation trading really doesn’t fall under that category. I mean, once you get your vacation weeks you can trade them to whomever you choose. I think a lot of guys just have a problem with the way weeks are awarded in the first place, not the trading of said weeks. If someone wants to trade a week with his sim partners cousin, have at it.
Cartel vacation trading really doesn’t fall under that category. I mean, once you get your vacation weeks you can trade them to whomever you choose. I think a lot of guys just have a problem with the way weeks are awarded in the first place, not the trading of said weeks. If someone wants to trade a week with his sim partners cousin, have at it.
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I am a noob SWA guy. That being said I understand both sides of the argument for block bidding and see each side. I have heard grumblings of cartels being unfair to the pilots not in them. Can someone experienced at SWA explain both sides of the argument for and against cartels (as much of an unbiased view as possible).
For everyone NOT in a cartel, you lose out on open time that you would otherwise have gotten, because they've circumvented the rules to get themselves, temporarily, under the cap.
There have been many attempts to regulate this behavior, but all have either petered out or met fierce resistance.
IMHO, the only way to curtail it without screwing the entire group is to make the cap ONLY apply to trips taken from open time. This way, a guy who's .01 over the cap because he overflew his awarded line won't lose out to a guy who was, and will be 20-30tfp over the cap 5 minutes after open time closes and the cartel Don puts the trip they parked on another board back onto his.
Last edited by SlipKid; 11-25-2017 at 07:29 AM.
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IMHO, the only way to curtail it without screwing the entire group is to make the cap ONLY apply to trips taken from open time. This way, a guy who's .01 over the cap because he overflew his awarded line won't lose out to a guy who was, and will be 20-30tfp over the cap 5 minutes after open time closes and the cartel Don puts the trip they parked on another board back onto his.
Bingo!
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