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Old 03-29-2018, 09:03 AM
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Is it true that-after going thru the interview circus and getting a job there-that you can get “black balled” by any pilot there?

Seems kind of chicken$h!t way to do someone in —if in fact that’s true.

If I had a prob w someone, we could settle up in the parking lot, then go have a beer and laugh about it later

But I guess times are changing, what with all the snowflakes and what not.

Just was wondering if that rumor was true.
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Old 03-29-2018, 09:19 AM
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There is a link on our company website for pilot referrals. On that form you can either check recommend or not recommend. Now as far as how HR chooses to use that info, I don't know.
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Old 03-29-2018, 09:26 AM
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The list of those interviewed are posted in the Crew Lounges. Any pilot can submit a letter of recommendation which can either be positive or negative. How much weight the negative letters get depend on the Chief Pilots as they make up the decision board. That being said the Chief's know which pilots have a reputation for chicken$hit.
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Old 03-29-2018, 09:41 AM
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Is it true that-after going thru the interview circus and getting a job there-that you can get “black balled” by any pilot there?

Seems kind of chicken$h!t way to do someone in —if in fact that’s true.

If I had a prob w someone, we could settle up in the parking lot, then go have a beer and laugh about it later

But I guess times are changing, what with all the snowflakes and what not.

Just was wondering if that rumor was true.
As others mentioned, yes there is a process for current pilots to “not recommend” someone. I recommended someone and got asked about him by a chief pilot as a follow up.

I heard if you submit a “not recommend” the chiefs set up a parking lot showdown between the applicant and current pilot. So I guess you should start training for your death match.
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Old 03-29-2018, 09:57 AM
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I dunno, I’m glad Pilots have (some) input on what kind of clown sits next to me. FWIW, I haven’t blackballed anyone, it would be reserved for special tools, not just a generic dislike.
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:25 AM
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Wow——so “true” then. Kind of defeats the entire purpose of the interview process.

Interesting.


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Old 03-29-2018, 10:28 AM
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Wow——so “true” then. Kind of defeats the entire purpose of the interview process.

Interesting.


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I agree with the poster above that it’s a good thing. The only people this should bother are those who are complete jerks.
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:52 AM
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One negative rec will not tank a job offer. I know this to be true from personal experience. The chiefs will consider the whole package.
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Old 03-29-2018, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bootleg View Post
Wow——so “true” then. Kind of defeats the entire purpose of the interview process.

Interesting.


Thank you sirs for the replies.
So you ****ed somebody off at SWA? LOL.

Unless that person somehow knows you interviewed (we don’t all gather and stare at the list), I doubt it’s an issue.
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Old 03-29-2018, 12:39 PM
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It's not a black-ball in that it's a one and done kind of situation. Internal recs (recommend or not recommend) are taken into consideration by the chief pilots during the decision board. If the candidate put on a good show during the interview but there are a few guys with significant adverse history to share, then it's a good thing that their information can be factored in. But I'd expect a phone call for clarification if you write a letter torpedo'ing a guy. And as far as I know, once the candidate makes it past the decision board, those internal recs (or no-recs) no longer factor in.

The system works. We are not a charity. If you feel somebody is/would write a not-recommend letter, then time for some self-reflection and get those issues ironed out ahead of time.
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