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Old 07-04-2018, 09:10 PM
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The SWAPA forum went full-stupid on this topic rather quickly..
Yeah, turned into a TA1 vs TA2 spittin’ match pretty quick.
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Old 07-04-2018, 10:35 PM
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The SWAPA forum. Ugh.

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Old 07-04-2018, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuseplug View Post
Bravo. Most coherent thoughts I've read on this topic in the last week. The SWAPA forum went full-stupid on this topic rather quickly..
“This topic...” As opposed to all the other ones that are the epitome of measured discourse?
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Old 07-05-2018, 01:29 PM
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there is reason to be optimistic about contract 2020. Swapa cleaned house after ta1. While relations with management aren't as amiable as in the past, now everyone knows where they stand.

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Ok, you have no idea what’s entailed in ETOPS certification.

Maintenance is one of the biggest hurdles. And a couple proving runs won’t do it.
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Old 07-07-2018, 05:31 AM
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Southwest is a GREAT job, great company, no doubt. However, they have been hiring gamgbusters for the last few years, it is simply inevitable hiring will stop or at least slow down. Going to a job counting on open ended growth to move up a seniority list is a very risky proposition.

The only legacy that will provide the fastest movement going forward is AA, simply because they are retiring so many people, 700-900 a year, that is a huge number, and they haven’t been hiring like Delta and Southwest the last couple of years (no personal opinion on the job itself, simply retirements and movement). I have not been able to get hard numbers on United.
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Old 07-07-2018, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by howardhughes8 View Post
Southwest is a GREAT job, great company, no doubt. However, they have been hiring gamgbusters for the last few years, it is simply inevitable hiring will stop or at least slow down. Going to a job counting on open ended growth to move up a seniority list is a very risky proposition.



The only legacy that will provide the fastest movement going forward is AA, simply because they are retiring so many people, 700-900 a year, that is a huge number, and they haven’t been hiring like Delta and Southwest the last couple of years (no personal opinion on the job itself, simply retirements and movement). I have not been able to get hard numbers on United.




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Old 07-07-2018, 10:46 AM
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Does anyone have a breakdown on the number of pilots hired by each of those airlines over the last few years? The retirement numbers are insightful, but it seems like some companies have led the wave and boosted their numbers significantly over the last few years.
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Old 07-07-2018, 11:17 AM
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FWIW, since the last “pause” in hiring (Oct ‘14 to July ‘15), there have been 2,135 pilots added to the SWA’s seniority list. That’s just a snapshot and does not include attrition.
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Does anyone have a breakdown on the number of pilots hired by each of those airlines over the last few years? The retirement numbers are insightful, but it seems like some companies have led the wave and boosted their numbers significantly over the last few years.
Hers is people still on list by year for WN

2018 ytd-402
2017-877
2016-555
2015-305
2014-329
2013-37
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