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Thunder1 09-19-2018 02:31 PM

SWA Maintenance TA voted down
 
AMFA | Southwest Airlines News & Updates

Things are about to get interesting around here....OVER 6 years and our mechanics STILL don't have a contract. Unbelievable -- all the while SWA has done approx. 7 BILLION $ worth of pointless, counter-productive stock buybacks during that time frame.

Not feeling the LUV -- I'll be out in uniform picketing alongside my maintainers when the time comes. Hope to see many of my fellow pilots at their pickets whenever they announce them.

Smooth at FL450 09-19-2018 04:33 PM

Good for them. They deserve better.

terminal 09-19-2018 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Thunder1 (Post 2677474)
AMFA | Southwest Airlines News & Updates

Things are about to get interesting around here....OVER 6 years and our mechanics STILL don't have a contract. Unbelievable -- all the while SWA has done approx. 7 BILLION $ worth of pointless, counter-productive stock buybacks during that time frame.

Not feeling the LUV -- I'll be out in uniform picketing alongside my maintainers when the time comes. Hope to see many of my fellow pilots at their pickets whenever they announce them.

What does this mean for Hawaii planning? Wasn’t the ETOPS a big element in this?

I like BIG Bus 09-19-2018 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 2677548)
Good for them. They deserve better.

Yes. Well done. It’s great to see unity and vision thwart an otherwise underwhelming deal. I hope our pilot group has the sack to do it facing a bad offer. Hope it gets better from here for them.

flensr 09-20-2018 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by terminal (Post 2677594)
What does this mean for Hawaii planning? Wasn’t the ETOPS a big element in this?

Word from the company mgt is that ETOPS (and LAX base) are completely decoupled from the MX contract. The official stance appears to be that SWA can proceed with ETOPS and LAX under the current contract, end of discussion.

I heard nearly the exact same wording from 3 separate executives.

Thunder1 09-20-2018 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2678319)
Word from the company mgt is that ETOPS (and LAX base) are completely decoupled from the MX contract. The official stance appears to be that SWA can proceed with ETOPS and LAX under the current contract, end of discussion.

I heard nearly the exact same wording from 3 separate executives.

Yep, and I heard the same type of story from SWA management that SWAPA pilots had to fly the 737 MAX even though that airplane was not listed in our CBA. They chose not to press to test the issue and signed TA2 with us before the first MAX arrived on property. Just because SWA management says it is one way doesn't mean that is factually correct not to mention morally or ethically correct.

Ditka 09-21-2018 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by Thunder1 (Post 2678323)
Yep, and I heard the same type of story from SWA management that SWAPA pilots had to fly the 737 MAX even though that airplane was not listed in our CBA. They chose not to press to test the issue and signed TA2 with us before the first MAX arrived on property. Just because SWA management says it is one way doesn't mean that is factually correct not to mention morally or ethically correct.

Shhh. The Max is silent.

SlipKid 09-21-2018 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by I like BIG Bus (Post 2677616)
Yes. Well done. It’s great to see unity and vision thwart an otherwise underwhelming deal. I hope our pilot group has the sack to do it facing a bad offer. Hope it gets better from here for them.

I've been hoping for this pilot group to grow a collective sack for over 2 decades. Hasn't happened yet. :eek:

SlipKid 09-21-2018 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Thunder1 (Post 2678323)
Yep, and I heard the same type of story from SWA management that SWAPA pilots had to fly the 737 MAX even though that airplane was not listed in our CBA. They chose not to press to test the issue and signed TA2 with us before the first MAX arrived on property. Just because SWA management says it is one way doesn't mean that is factually correct not to mention morally or ethically correct.

They must've figured that since we caved on SL6 (the -800, not to mention 16 other concessionary SLs to an already concessionary contract), that the (Shhhhh!) M*x would be a shoe in. :confused:

80%+ of us agreed to, literally, PAY for the privilege of flying the -800 with SL6.

JetDoc 09-21-2018 08:12 AM

I think part of the issue is the ETOPS service checks in the islands. AMFA want company mechanics to do them, of course and the company wants to farm them out.


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