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Old 09-29-2018, 12:59 PM
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Target airline = SWA


Need to "check the 121 box" on the resume, I am being told by a few trusted folks this is what I need and after maybe a year of that, SWA should consider my application as competitive. All other blocks checked, to include Turbine PIC and Check Airman. No B737 type.



With that said, does SWA care one way or the other if I am an FO at Envoy, or an FO at Spirit (ostensibly flying "big airliners") ?



would being at Spirit "label me" with some sort of discontent or "works for a competitor" label ?


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Originally Posted by BarrySeal View Post
Target airline = SWA


Need to "check the 121 box" on the resume, I am being told by a few trusted folks this is what I need and after maybe a year of that, SWA should consider my application as competitive. All other blocks checked, to include Turbine PIC and Check Airman. No B737 type.



With that said, does SWA care one way or the other if I am an FO at Envoy, or an FO at Spirit (ostensibly flying "big airliners") ?



would being at Spirit "label me" with some sort of discontent or "works for a competitor" label ?


Thank you


** live in Dallas, mom/dad also here, in ill-health, I need to try to work for a company with an existing Dallas Pilot base"
Spirit....
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Spirit....

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Originally Posted by BarrySeal View Post
Target airline = SWA


Need to "check the 121 box" on the resume, I am being told by a few trusted folks this is what I need and after maybe a year of that, SWA should consider my application as competitive. All other blocks checked, to include Turbine PIC and Check Airman. No B737 type.



With that said, does SWA care one way or the other if I am an FO at Envoy, or an FO at Spirit (ostensibly flying "big airliners") ?



would being at Spirit "label me" with some sort of discontent or "works for a competitor" label ?


Thank you


** live in Dallas, mom/dad also here, in ill-health, I need to try to work for a company with an existing Dallas Pilot base"
You won’t get Dallas with Envoy or Spirit. However you will with Mesa and we have had several pilots recently go to SWA.
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Old 09-29-2018, 01:31 PM
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You won’t get Dallas with Envoy or Spirit. However you will with Mesa and we have had several pilots recently go to SWA.

I realize on Day-1, no I won't get DFW. Envoy is about 12 month wait to get DFW, according to another Envoy pilot.


Spirit also has a DFW Pilot base
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Spirit pays better than Envoy. It may be a good enough place to be "stuck" if SWA does not call right away. Envoy would be a path to AA with their flow, but since your goal is SWA, it's not much of an incentive. As far as getting a Dallas base, it all depends on what's going on at the time you get hired. To add to what Otterbox said, Spirit, Envoy, Mesa in that order. If you can commute and to improve your chances further, Sun Country for the B737 Type. Although the type rating is no longer required, it is still considered.
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You’ll get DFW within the first few bids at Spirit. Either your 2nd or 3rd month on the line if things stay as they are right now.
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Thank you, awesome info
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The specific airline doesn’t matter, as others have said. I’d go for the airline that will suit you best should the music stop while you’re there and you end up waiting longer than you’d thought for SWA to call. Not knowing where you live, I’d guess Spirit would be a good place to start.
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 View Post
The specific airline doesn’t matter, as others have said. I’d go for the airline that will suit you best should the music stop while you’re there and you end up waiting longer than you’d thought for SWA to call. Not knowing where you live, I’d guess Spirit would be a good place to start.
I agree. It also sounds like you might get DFW faster with Spirit.
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