Southwest Hiring 2019
11-19-2019, 01:46 PM
#851
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
You may want to read 61.51 again.
(1) Is qualified in accordance with the second-in-command requirements of §61.55, and occupies a crewmember station in an aircraft that requires more than one pilot by the aircraft's type certificate;
(2) Holds the appropriate category, class, and instrument rating (if an instrument rating is required for the flight) for the aircraft being flown, and more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted;
Do a Barron/Seneca/etc require 2 pilots in their type certificate?
Not sure many situations exist where SIC can be logged in a light single pilot airplane. Curious to know what you are referring to in your 61.51 comment.
11-19-2019, 02:04 PM
#852
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I think some Cape Air flights operate with a 2-pilot crew. This might be a case of SIC in a “light twin”. But this is, I think, 121 flying.
FWIW, I flew with many ex-Cape pilots in my previous life and without exception they were excellent pilots. We should recruit them.
I digress.
FWIW, I flew with many ex-Cape pilots in my previous life and without exception they were excellent pilots. We should recruit them.
I digress.
11-19-2019, 05:52 PM
#854
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Places like Boutique and Plane Sense fly Pilatus PC-12's with 2 pilots. I'd imagine those in the right seat are allowed to fly SIC even though 2 pilots aren't required to fly a Pilatus.
https://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/regulations/your-guide-to-logging-sic-flight-time-in-single-pilot-airplanes/
11-19-2019, 05:54 PM
#855
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Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer
Logging second-in-command flight time. A person may log second-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person:
(1) Is qualified in accordance with the second-in-command requirements of §61.55, and occupies a crewmember station in an aircraft that requires more than one pilot by the aircraft's type certificate;
(2) Holds the appropriate category, class, and instrument rating (if an instrument rating is required for the flight) for the aircraft being flown, and more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted;
Do a Barron/Seneca/etc require 2 pilots in their type certificate?
Not sure many situations exist where SIC can be logged in a light single pilot airplane. Curious to know what you are referring to in your 61.51 comment.
(1) Is qualified in accordance with the second-in-command requirements of §61.55, and occupies a crewmember station in an aircraft that requires more than one pilot by the aircraft's type certificate;
(2) Holds the appropriate category, class, and instrument rating (if an instrument rating is required for the flight) for the aircraft being flown, and more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted;
Do a Barron/Seneca/etc require 2 pilots in their type certificate?
Not sure many situations exist where SIC can be logged in a light single pilot airplane. Curious to know what you are referring to in your 61.51 comment.
This is rare but it does exist.
11-19-2019, 06:33 PM
#856
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Ive always thought that the reason they had you list that time as SIC is because they want to know how many flight hours you have, but they really want to know how many PIC hours you have.
I guess they could change the inputs to include TT, PIC, SIC, but I think their current setup gets the job done. I dont think they are going to look at your app and ask why you listed SIC time in a baron when its a single pilot light twin. They just want to know how many hours you have and how many of those were you the signing PIC.
I guess they could change the inputs to include TT, PIC, SIC, but I think their current setup gets the job done. I dont think they are going to look at your app and ask why you listed SIC time in a baron when its a single pilot light twin. They just want to know how many hours you have and how many of those were you the signing PIC.
11-19-2019, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Champeen07
Ive always thought that the reason they had you list that time as SIC is because they want to know how many flight hours you have, but they really want to know how many PIC hours you have.
I guess they could change the inputs to include TT, PIC, SIC, but I think their current setup gets the job done. I dont think they are going to look at your app and ask why you listed SIC time in a baron when its a single pilot light twin. They just want to know how many hours you have and how many of those were you the signing PIC.
I guess they could change the inputs to include TT, PIC, SIC, but I think their current setup gets the job done. I dont think they are going to look at your app and ask why you listed SIC time in a baron when its a single pilot light twin. They just want to know how many hours you have and how many of those were you the signing PIC.
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