I was really starting to wonder how they compared. Spirit seems to be set to grow quite a bit which would be great to get into. If I could "flow" from cape air to Spirit I would be thrilled. And the Vegas base isn't far from SLC which is home.

Yeah, I’d be all over that flow if I were you. Spirit’s future is bright, whether that be as a stand-alone or after one of the legacies gobbles them up.

The most whacked thing that I read today---Whackmaster giving advice to another pilot on where to work. His grass will always be greener on the other side of the fence. If he was at Spirit, he'd be trumpeting just how bad management was over and over and over and over . . .

On the bright side, Whackmaster is predictable--but I certainly wouldn't use him for career advice. His first concern is making himself feel better about the past. :cool:

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that whackmaster was going full sarcastic on the OP...

For the prospective pilots interested in Southwest, anyone that tries to sell you:

- our balance sheet
- the "culture"
- the "never furloughed" spiel
- the domiciles
- the scope clause
- the vacation rules
- the reserve rules
- the number of days away from home...

you look them straight in the eye and tell them that by coming to Southwest:

- you will lag your legacy peers in hourly rates.
- you cannot be happy being an FO for the better part of your career, and a 15-year upgrade because of a young pilot group is a non-starter.
- you will be treated like garbage by the company should you go out on medical and you don't want to subject your family to it.
- you will never fly a widebody here.
- you will be stuck flying that clacked-out, uncomfortable and loud POS 737 for the rest of your career.
- you will miss out on Frontier with their new TA, JetBlue, and Spirit with their new contracts as are all much better options with much quicker upgrade than Southwest, and we aren't even talking about legacies.

In the end, that 4th stripe and the ability to brag about the highest hourly rates in the world is what it's all about... at least on APC. :p

So when’s your last day at Southwest?:rolleyes:

Someone’s been overseas a bit too long. ;)

You bring up good talking points but I have to say that the sales pitches do have merit.

I for one am okay without the wide body (hell it could change LOL), and knew the 737 was the only game when I applied.

I also love the scope and lack of PBS.

That being said, we need to capitalize on the state of the industry for the next contract.