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Old 09-21-2018, 06:52 AM
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Is there any way to track SWA's ETOPS progress for Hawaii? Or do we just have to wait for a press release from the company?
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No. Yes.

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Had a SWA guy stop up front the other day to say hi while jumpseating and we got to chatting and he mentioned that the ETOPS process was dead in the water. Any clout to this? just curious is all.
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Sounds like he's in the know.
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Is there any way to track SWA's ETOPS progress for Hawaii? Or do we just have to wait for a press release from the company?
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It is moving along. It’s going to happen soon. Too much money and momentum at this point. LAX ETOPS base opening delayed a month. Nothing to see here.
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Had a SWA guy stop up front the other day to say hi while jumpseating and we got to chatting and he mentioned that the ETOPS process was dead in the water. Any clout to this? just curious is all.
No.

I have no idea why some dudes seem to be hoping this fails - the rumors are out of control.

It will happen when the Feds allow it, and no, it won't go perfectly.

Latest best guess is January. They are coordinating the six required proving runs with the Feds now. The holidays coming up aren't helping with that, but once they're done, we should be good to go.
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Good friend of mine is involved with getting ETOPS for another airline. He said that he was told by FAA contact that SWA did not pass the table-tops portion of getting ETOPS.
Now the question would be , how long does the FAA make them wait until they can try again.

ETOPS certification comes out of the Washington DC office, not your airlines's local FISDO, so having the long time connections and good relations doesn't help help you.

I also talked with a CA at ATI when I was jumpseating on them. He was involved with their process of getting ETOPS. He said the FAA fails a lot of airlines on their first try of going through the table-top exercise.
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My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with a girl who saw Southwest pass-out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.
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