737 MAX - Safe or Unsafe?
03-20-2019, 09:33 AM
#111
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Originally Posted by AirBear
Whats happening to the SWA Max Pilots? Are they getting a paid vacation? Or can they just step back down to flying the standard 737-800?
Originally Posted by Peacock
It’s all one type rating
03-20-2019, 07:20 PM
#112
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Position: Cabin Temp Management Specialist
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Originally Posted by Jess1
So to paraphrase Sully:
"Airport management, the FAA and the airlines. They're all cheats and liars. All right, lets get outta here."
"Airport management, the FAA and the airlines. They're all cheats and liars. All right, lets get outta here."
What he DID say was this:
The FAA has abdicated its historic regulatory role because its budget has been gutted to such an extent that it can't afford to hire and retain experts like it once did. In lieu of it's own people, the FAA now farms all that work out to the very companies it's supposed to be regulating. And when you trust an industry to police itself, and that industry becomes so big and powerful as to affect policy, people will die.
03-21-2019, 06:14 AM
#113
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
When they rerun the performance data for the new numbers, I bet the aircraft takes a hit on useful load. Boeing owes a lot of money to the airlines for this one.
03-21-2019, 06:39 AM
#114
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski
Uh ... not exactly what he said.
What he DID say was this:
The FAA has abdicated its historic regulatory role because its budget has been gutted to such an extent that it can't afford to hire and retain experts like it once did. In lieu of it's own people, the FAA now farms all that work out to the very companies it's supposed to be regulating. And when you trust an industry to police itself, and that industry becomes so big and powerful as to affect policy, people will die.
What he DID say was this:
The FAA has abdicated its historic regulatory role because its budget has been gutted to such an extent that it can't afford to hire and retain experts like it once did. In lieu of it's own people, the FAA now farms all that work out to the very companies it's supposed to be regulating. And when you trust an industry to police itself, and that industry becomes so big and powerful as to affect policy, people will die.
03-21-2019, 07:05 AM
#115
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Originally Posted by RustyChain
With that user name, its ironic you missed the joke. I guess that movie is pretty old.
Hilarious.
03-21-2019, 07:22 AM
#117
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Originally Posted by PerfInit
There was a reference made to a quote in the 1980’s movie “Airplane”
by character “Captain Rex Kramer” (played by Actor Robert Stack?) I think. It obviously didn’t go over too well...
by character “Captain Rex Kramer” (played by Actor Robert Stack?) I think. It obviously didn’t go over too well...
Apologies to Jess for not recognizing that that was, in fact, a quote from "Airplane."
Now back to the thread. Nothing to see here!
03-21-2019, 06:24 PM
#119
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Originally Posted by Psycho18th
That Seattle Times article is the best by far I’ve read on this. If it’s somewhat accurate, those pilots faced a much tougher problem than I had imagined. I’d hope after the first crash, the instant a pitch problem reared it’s head I’d hit those cutout switches, but you never know if not in their shoes.
03-22-2019, 06:40 AM
#120
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$64 question
737 MAX 8/9 inflight:
In the flight deck, does the noisy stab wheel rotate?
I don't think it does, but what is the answer?
- Landing gear is up.
- Flaps are fully retracted.
- Autopilot is off
- Pilot is hand flying
- MCAS gets activated for a "PUSH-OVER". (No pickle switch use by pilot.)
- Stabilizer moves due to MCAS.
In the flight deck, does the noisy stab wheel rotate?
I don't think it does, but what is the answer?
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