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b2660493 06-30-2019 09:47 AM

LUV: "Can't Work With" List?
 
There's a rule on Southwest Airlines that permits pilots (and perhaps other staff) to list up to three other colleagues that they won't work with. Does anybody on this forum know the name of this rule? Where could I research more information on this?

Do other airlines have anything similar?

Thanks, -Nina

Peacock 06-30-2019 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by b2660493 (Post 2845626)
There's a rule on Southwest Airlines that permits pilots (and perhaps other staff) to list up to three other colleagues that they won't work with. Does anybody on this forum know the name of this rule? Where could I research more information on this?

Do other airlines have anything similar?

Thanks, -Nina

First officers can submit up to three “avoidance bids” for captains they don’t want to fly with. It doesn’t mean you can’t be assigned to fly with them on reserve or after a re-route, only that you won’t get the same line. Captains can’t avoidance bid first officers. I have no idea if something exists for other employees but I doubt it.

WHACKMASTER 06-30-2019 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Peacock (Post 2845654)
Captains can’t avoidance bid first officers.

No, but you can always insist that the FO put you on their Avoidance Bid list :D

Peacock 06-30-2019 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2845675)
No, but you can always insist that the FO put you on their Avoidance Bid list :D

Only if you make it into the top three

at6d 06-30-2019 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by b2660493 (Post 2845626)
There's a rule on Southwest Airlines that permits pilots (and perhaps other staff) to list up to three other colleagues that they won't work with. Does anybody on this forum know the name of this rule? Where could I research more information on this?

Do other airlines have anything similar?

Thanks, -Nina

Common for most airlines. And most pros understand that if you are bad enough to fly with, we aren’t flying with you no matter what policy is in place. Just saying.

gipple 06-30-2019 12:05 PM

The ones on the list are proud to be there. Management knows.

RJSAviator76 06-30-2019 07:21 PM

I don't put anyone on my avoidance bid list. I'm not willing to sacrifice my quality of life, work or paycheck because someone is difficult to work with. I've been paired with high avoidance bid guys/gals, and we usually understand each other very well by the second leg of the trip. Helps to be direct and not passive-aggressive.

Some CRM pointers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds76VOSkm5g

coflyr 06-30-2019 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 2845846)
I don't put anyone on my avoidance bid list. I'm not willing to sacrifice my quality of life, work or paycheck because someone is difficult to work with. I've been paired with high avoidance bid guys/gals, and we usually understand each other very well by the second leg of the trip. Helps to be direct and not passive-aggressive.

Some CRM pointers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds76VOSkm5g

This. I refuse to let some jerk dictate my schedule bc he hasn’t figured out how to play nice with others.

ROFF 06-30-2019 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 2845846)

I don’t think you’re supposed to be putting company ETOPS training material on the internet.

ZapBrannigan 06-30-2019 10:08 PM

I have one guy on my list. Yes he was that bad.


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