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08-17-2019, 06:05 PM
#92
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 588
Originally Posted by symbian simian
Buddy, take a chill pill. Started in aviation in March 1990, so pretty similar. Took me close to 15 years after I met the qualifications to get my "dream" job (aka 7th out of the 6 companies I wanted to work for). I'm not sure if nobody retiring for 5 years had anything to do with it, but I can fill in the blanks. Guess what, none of those entitled senior guys were asked to vote on it either, it happened, get a life.
08-19-2019, 05:22 AM
#93
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Posts: 272
The difference between the 60 vs 65 is pretty simple to me. I got into the industry knowing I had to retire at 60. Once they moved the goal posts, now I have to work to 65 to make up for the lost 5 years of being a stagnant FO.
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08-19-2019, 06:23 AM
#94
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Originally Posted by Ihateusernames
The difference between the 60 vs 65 is pretty simple to me. I got into the industry knowing I had to retire at 60. Once they moved the goal posts, now I have to work to 65 to make up for the lost 5 years of being a stagnant FO.
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Not saying it doesn’t suck, but it’s not 5 years.
08-19-2019, 07:05 PM
#95
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 630
Originally Posted by symbian simian
Sorry if IATA, but that doesn’t really add up. If you worked till 65 you would end your career at the same spot on the seniority list (probably higher because of the increased medical retirements between 60&65). You would also have those 5 years as a stagnant FO wages and an extra 5 years of SS contributions/no SS withdrawals. Probably could work till 63 for the same money.
Not saying it doesn’t suck, but it’s not 5 years.
Not saying it doesn’t suck, but it’s not 5 years.
09-10-2019, 02:49 PM
#98
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Joined APC: Sep 2019
Posts: 8
So everyone in here is either a SWA Pilot or someone working towards being a SWA Pilot. I have zero hours flight time (picked my username accordingly).
I am in my mid-20s. Have always wanted to fly. Have taken a number of discovery flights and have loved them. I do all the simulator stuff, aviation geek, etc, etc.
I have reached out to the D225 team to get a better understanding of why someone would choose to do this program. I spoke with the designers of the program and they essentially told me that this program gets you from zero to SWA Pilot in less than 5 years. That's their goal. Whether or not that's BS or not is up to you, but that's what they said.
They said it has to do with their supervision in the training process and pretty much feeding you the SWA Kool-Aid the whole time. If you want to go from zero flight time to SWA Pilot and do it relatively quickly then I guess I can see why you would want to do the program. Can someone maybe help me see why this would backfire for the student?
I am in my mid-20s. Have always wanted to fly. Have taken a number of discovery flights and have loved them. I do all the simulator stuff, aviation geek, etc, etc.
I have reached out to the D225 team to get a better understanding of why someone would choose to do this program. I spoke with the designers of the program and they essentially told me that this program gets you from zero to SWA Pilot in less than 5 years. That's their goal. Whether or not that's BS or not is up to you, but that's what they said.
They said it has to do with their supervision in the training process and pretty much feeding you the SWA Kool-Aid the whole time. If you want to go from zero flight time to SWA Pilot and do it relatively quickly then I guess I can see why you would want to do the program. Can someone maybe help me see why this would backfire for the student?
09-10-2019, 06:50 PM
#99
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I haven't looked into it too much into it, just glanced at the article. First how much is expected of you in terms of money and commitment? Aviation programs have a history of coming and going. Unfortunately some have folded after taking large sums of money from the student. Also, will you have to sign any type of training contract? It can require you to instruct for so long or work at a lesser rate while you pay them back. Just read the fine print before signing.
From the article it sounds like you have to go through JetLinx or XO Jet, which are both 135 (charter) companies. Work rules, lifestyles, job descriptions, and type of flying are quite different than flying for an airline. Some like the varied flying, others don't like loading bags and stocking the back of the plane, which you will do as a charter pilot.
If you put forth the same effort you can probably get your ratings in about the same amount of time and pick the regional you want to fly for. You can pick one with a flow so you have a guaranteed job and then apply to any other airline you want.
So it could be a good payoff, but always keep in mind that programs can be stopped and typically these programs give preferential hiring or interviews, but not a guaranteed job potentially leaving you at the time building job.
From the article it sounds like you have to go through JetLinx or XO Jet, which are both 135 (charter) companies. Work rules, lifestyles, job descriptions, and type of flying are quite different than flying for an airline. Some like the varied flying, others don't like loading bags and stocking the back of the plane, which you will do as a charter pilot.
If you put forth the same effort you can probably get your ratings in about the same amount of time and pick the regional you want to fly for. You can pick one with a flow so you have a guaranteed job and then apply to any other airline you want.
So it could be a good payoff, but always keep in mind that programs can be stopped and typically these programs give preferential hiring or interviews, but not a guaranteed job potentially leaving you at the time building job.
09-10-2019, 10:55 PM
#100
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Originally Posted by ZeroToHero
So everyone in here is either a SWA Pilot or someone working towards being a SWA Pilot. I have zero hours flight time (picked my username accordingly).
I am in my mid-20s. Have always wanted to fly. Have taken a number of discovery flights and have loved them. I do all the simulator stuff, aviation geek, etc, etc.
I have reached out to the D225 team to get a better understanding of why someone would choose to do this program. I spoke with the designers of the program and they essentially told me that this program gets you from zero to SWA Pilot in less than 5 years. That's their goal. Whether or not that's BS or not is up to you, but that's what they said.
They said it has to do with their supervision in the training process and pretty much feeding you the SWA Kool-Aid the whole time. If you want to go from zero flight time to SWA Pilot and do it relatively quickly then I guess I can see why you would want to do the program. Can someone maybe help me see why this would backfire for the student?
I am in my mid-20s. Have always wanted to fly. Have taken a number of discovery flights and have loved them. I do all the simulator stuff, aviation geek, etc, etc.
I have reached out to the D225 team to get a better understanding of why someone would choose to do this program. I spoke with the designers of the program and they essentially told me that this program gets you from zero to SWA Pilot in less than 5 years. That's their goal. Whether or not that's BS or not is up to you, but that's what they said.
They said it has to do with their supervision in the training process and pretty much feeding you the SWA Kool-Aid the whole time. If you want to go from zero flight time to SWA Pilot and do it relatively quickly then I guess I can see why you would want to do the program. Can someone maybe help me see why this would backfire for the student?
start flight training towards a PPL with IR and see if you have the aptitude.
Being a pilot probably means being away from home half the month, working weekend aso, is that something you have considered?
I have always wanted to be a pilot, and after 30 years in aviation, 20 as a pilot I still feel lucky, but it hasn't been without pain&sacrifice.
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