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Old 10-24-2019, 07:40 AM
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He talks about the delay, projections of when (if) MAX is cleared to fly in Dec 19 when all 70 airplanes could be put back into the schedule, the discussions that will occur in Jan 2p2p regarding a 2nd airplane e type and much more.
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“We’re not happy” and “We’ve been looking at other aircraft options” AKA: Boeing better give us a steep discount on these next 75 deliveries.
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The CFO typically gives the financial status of a company. The CEO’s remarks following may or may not be reality since they are meant primarily for the shareholders.

That said, I hope SWA is beginning to see the sense of a second aircraft type. I think it’s too risky to depend on a single type of aging aircraft and dated technology. A single type might work for a small airline, but eventually growth means the need for diversification.
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The CFO typically gives the financial status of a company. The CEO’s remarks following may or may not be reality since they are meant primarily for the shareholders.

That said, I hope SWA is beginning to see the sense of a second aircraft type. I think it’s too risky to depend on a single type of aging aircraft and dated technology. A single type might work for a small airline, but eventually growth means the need for diversification.
going to come down to A220 or E195-E2. praying hard for the A220.
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going to come down to A220 or E195-E2. praying hard for the A220.
Between those 2....also vote for the A220. It’s light-years ahead of the EMB.
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https://apple.news/AEUk3p29VR0-gLTzaS3KmLA

“We may discover, I doubt it, but we may discover that it is better to have two airplanes economically and operationally," he said
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I think it’s too risky to depend on a single type of aging aircraft and dated technology.
Which is somewhat ironic since the conventional wisdom industry-wide (warranted or not) is that it was SWA’s extreme desire to minimize training costs and maintain a common type rating which pressured Boeing to not advance its narrowbody product too far or to develop a clean sheet design.
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Between those 2....also vote for the A220. It’s light-years ahead of the EMB.
And I think its capacity best fits our operation, and offers more flexibility for the future.

The E2 has about 130 seats max at our pitch, and the canairbus -300 has about the same or more as the -700 with a similar seat pitch and about 600nm more range.

The max7 doesn’t look like it’ll be a success based on orders and interest. Maybe those slots should go to the a220.
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Which is somewhat ironic since the conventional wisdom industry-wide (warranted or not) is that it was SWA’s extreme desire to minimize training costs and maintain a common type rating which pressured Boeing to not advance its narrowbody product too far or to develop a clean sheet design.
True, but genius isn’t timeless when the dynamics of the industry are constantly changing. We have to constantly evaluate our processes to see if they remain relevant. Not to follow the rest of the industry but to make sure we’re actually doing things the best way. I hope the folks in the positions that make those decisions are using real data and are making realistic evaluations.
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I watched the entire segment, and Gary only mentioned that he will “study a second aircraft” and those discussions will take place next year. Just getting the feel from the segment that this was a shot across the bow at Boeing. “We’re not happy” was said twice and my gut says this is leverage for smoking deals on the Max. Ie. buy 2 get 1 for free type deal.

Boeing is in a tough spot. They need to get some revenue flowing and the Max back in service. A plane sold is a plane that can be supported with parts for 30 years. They don’t have the time to do a blank sheet design (loose market share to Airbus). They need SWA to save this aircraft, and desperately. The Max needs to be Boeing’s bread and butter for the next ten years until they replace it with a clean sheet design.
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