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Old 11-08-2019, 02:19 PM
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Hi Guys, Southwest is my goal airline.

Currently 3.7k hours total 1.3k turbine multi pic from light jets and turboprops that weigh more then 12.5k.

4 type ratings, no checkride failures, no 4yr degree, clean background currently in the right seat of a Gulfstream getting ready to upgrade at my 135. I have the possible chance at moving to the company BBJ part 135 soon, which would kill my upgrade in the Gulfstream potentially forever but get me a 737 type and experience.

Which route do you think is fastest to Southwest? Thanks
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Personally I think jet PIC always trumps SIC. You’ll get plenty of 737 time once you get here.
Now about the lack of a 4 year degree... that’s a bigger issue. It’s possible to get here without it, but it seems like those who do have something spectacular on their resume.
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Old 11-08-2019, 02:38 PM
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Personally I think jet PIC always trumps SIC. You’ll get plenty of 737 time once you get here.
Now about the lack of a 4 year degree... that’s a bigger issue. It’s possible to get here without it, but it seems like those who do have something spectacular on their resume.
Chief pilot, check airman/IP/standards, safety committee, etc.
True, thanks for the fast response!
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Ill second the degree comment. That’s the biggest hurdle at this point.
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Yup. The degree is important. I got here with no 737, no 121, no check, chief, director. But I did have degree and 135/91 PIC

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Take whichever position will allow you the most free time to work on your degree. It's not impossible to land the job without it but it is "next to impossible."
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Go see my thread about how to get into Southwest. You will see some good tips. 4 years degree is important. You can always do online school. This is what I’m doing now, aviation classes on campus and I take core classes online.
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Get the PIC time. While it's difficult to get hired without a degree (not impossible, I know a few who have) the PIC time will carry much more weight than 737 SIC time.

....as I was writing that, I re-read and see you already have 1.3k multi-turbine time.....that's plenty - assuming it's fairly recent. If not, take the upgrade and regardless, work on the degree. Even actively working towards your degree can be a big leg up.

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Originally Posted by Socalpt6 View Post
Hi Guys, Southwest is my goal airline.

Currently 3.7k hours total 1.3k turbine multi pic from light jets and turboprops that weigh more then 12.5k.

4 type ratings, no checkride failures, no 4yr degree, clean background currently in the right seat of a Gulfstream getting ready to upgrade at my 135. I have the possible chance at moving to the company BBJ part 135 soon, which would kill my upgrade in the Gulfstream potentially forever but get me a 737 type and experience.

Which route do you think is fastest to Southwest? Thanks
Hey SoCal. You’re off to a great start.

+1 on the degree. Upgrade in a Gulfstream/Global/Large Cabin Jet carries significant weight at SWA. Best of luck to you.
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Originally Posted by Socalpt6 View Post
Hi Guys, Southwest is my goal airline.

Currently 3.7k hours total 1.3k turbine multi pic from light jets and turboprops that weigh more then 12.5k.

4 type ratings, no checkride failures, no 4yr degree, clean background currently in the right seat of a Gulfstream getting ready to upgrade at my 135. I have the possible chance at moving to the company BBJ part 135 soon, which would kill my upgrade in the Gulfstream potentially forever but get me a 737 type and experience.

Which route do you think is fastest to Southwest? Thanks
Go for the Gulfstream upgrade! I agree you will get more than enough 737 time at SWA. Plus, who wants to sit up front in a BBJ on long haul flights for 8+ hours? Your lower back will regret it!
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