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Old 02-22-2020, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex View Post
Not really since you’re probably talking about 2017 or earlier. Let’s look at real numbers, Last year we had 2000+ pilots. 24 left for other airlines, only 5 were Captains. Of those 24 only 2 left for SWA (I’m assuming they are FO). We had as many leave for 135 as for SWA. Let’s not pretend many of our pilots are trying to get out like they are use to especially to SWA.
I think his point is still valid. There hasn’t been one single person left southwest to go to spirit.
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Old 02-23-2020, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER View Post
Sure. Utterly brilliant. You can still make the same money but you only have to work extra days to do it. Nothing to see here. All is well at SWA

Good gawd, I’m scared to have your “kind” voting on the next TA.
yeah that’s killing us
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8er View Post
I think his point is still valid. There hasn’t been one single person left southwest to go to spirit.
sure there have... just not pilots 😜
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Old 02-23-2020, 06:47 AM
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"Nobody left SW for Spirit" is like saying "Nobody left Delta for SW" or "Nobody quit Harvard to attend M.I.T."

who cares, this means nothing in and of itself. If nobody left Delta for SW, is the latter (SW) then a bad company ? Of course not.

seniority, pilot bases, etc all play a role into things. A guy whose wife is from FLL, has sick parents in a FLL nursing home, and he is a Captain at Spirit, based in FLL, is probably not applying to United. Maybe he is. doubt it.
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Old 02-23-2020, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
"Nobody left SW for Spirit" is like saying "Nobody left Delta for SW" or "Nobody quit Harvard to attend M.I.T."

who cares, this means nothing in and of itself. If nobody left Delta for SW, is the latter (SW) then a bad company ? Of course not.

seniority, pilot bases, etc all play a role into things. A guy whose wife is from FLL, has sick parents in a FLL nursing home, and he is a Captain at Spirit, based in FLL, is probably not applying to United. Maybe he is. doubt it.

how dare you apply common sense and logic to these precedings!
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:20 AM
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I know someone who quit Fedex for Alaska. People have their reasons....
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Old 02-23-2020, 01:03 PM
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I know someone who quit Fedex for Alaska. People have their reasons....


I know a guy who left FedEx to go back to his old corporate job. To each their own.
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Old 02-23-2020, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sqwk7700 View Post
I know a guy who left FedEx to go back to his old corporate job. To each their own.

Yep. Won’t fault someone for doing what they think is best for their family. If it doesn’t work out I’ll laugh with them over a beer. Life’s too short to be miserable.
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Old 02-25-2020, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex View Post
0 far as I know, but I was responding to the “I know many CA from Spirit who has left for SWA”. That statement no longer applies, which comes from actual numbers. Because SWA gained 2 pilots from us and we gained 0 from them last year doesn’t mean anything, especially only 2 out of 24 left for SWA. Look around and you’ll see many “Should I leave this airline for that airline” post
I suspect that number will be zero moving forward with the ways things have been going lately.
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Old 02-26-2020, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81 View Post
For example: At SWA you can bid rsv and your guarantee is 89. If they call you out for a rigged 3 day you’re guaranteed 90.5. Let’s say you pick up a 2 day that pays 13. Now you’re at 103.5. You’ve worked 5 days.
  • At United you can pick up on days off on rsv but you don’t go over guarantee. AA from what I’ve been told can’t exceed a certain line value. Delta has green slips and rolling thunder. Different contracts, so most places have some way to augment pay if you choose to do so.

I wish I didn’t have to work more to make the same pay as the guy in the Widget 737. Yr 1-5 FO were sold out in the last cycle for whatever reason.

I can pick up 3 days of work and make what my wife would have brought in had she kept her job. Small price to pay for her to stay home with the kids since I no longer have to pay daycare costs, etc.

Longer I’m here the less I work since I’m making more. I only add 2 days a month now. 16 days off for me is plenty....and even with that I’m only away from my bed 8-10 nights a month.
Not that it matters here but the bolded quote from you is incorrect. You do break guarantee as soon as you pickup on a day off on reserve (as you probably do at ANY airline I would think) at United. Someone gave you bad info.
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