Rates of Pay
01-30-2020, 09:31 PM
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Rates of Pay
Hi.
Just wondering if someone could please post some rough figures for yearly gross pay based on minimum credit guaranteed hours for FO's, year 1,2,3 and 4? I'm assuming it's 75hrs MCG?
Thanks in advance.
Taggert
Just wondering if someone could please post some rough figures for yearly gross pay based on minimum credit guaranteed hours for FO's, year 1,2,3 and 4? I'm assuming it's 75hrs MCG?
Thanks in advance.
Taggert
01-31-2020, 08:34 AM
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The APC numbers have been converted to an hourly rate. So they aren’t exactly correct.
Most of us seem to average about 100 “trips” a month, give or take.
A First year “trip” is 73.56. Second is 106.37. Goes up about $15 a year after that.
If you hustle your schedule, you can be pretty ok on first year pay (there are some ways of getting second year pay during the first year).
I’ve had months as high as 140 and as low as 80. It depends on what you want to do with your schedule. Some guys give stuff away a to work less, other play the “premium” game.
Most of us seem to average about 100 “trips” a month, give or take.
A First year “trip” is 73.56. Second is 106.37. Goes up about $15 a year after that.
If you hustle your schedule, you can be pretty ok on first year pay (there are some ways of getting second year pay during the first year).
I’ve had months as high as 140 and as low as 80. It depends on what you want to do with your schedule. Some guys give stuff away a to work less, other play the “premium” game.
01-31-2020, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Crockrocket95
Assuming 89 TFP per month.
Year 1 - 78500
Year 2 - 117000
Year 3 - 130200
Year 4 - 143800
Year 5 - 157500
Year 1 - 78500
Year 2 - 117000
Year 3 - 130200
Year 4 - 143800
Year 5 - 157500
This is good gouge for min guarantee and a good apples to apples comparison for your value per widget of work vs other airlines. The reality is, though, that most pilots credit higher than min guarantee every month whether they try to or not.
01-31-2020, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ackeight
Before the max debacle it was easy to fly my line/elitt and get 100 tfp. 13 days of work. You’ll get rerouted and get poor mans premium at least once a month on average to help.
01-31-2020, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
.....and now things have gone to hell pay wise. Keep that in mind for those of you on the outside looking in.
It will come back. Don’t make it sound like it won’t and we will be at guarantee forever.
01-31-2020, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ackeight
It will come back. Don’t make it sound like it won’t and we will be at guarantee forever.
01-31-2020, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Let’s not kid ourselves. The company WAY over staffed well before the MAX fiasco. The “new norm” was already hurting our pay opportunities even before the MAX got grounded, so while the return of that airframe will certainly help, the company seemed hell bent on changing the staffing model and not for the betterment of our W-2s.
I will agree with that we are overstaffing, but not WAY overstaffing(pre max). The shoulder flights stressed us during the peaks. Personally I’d like to be overstaffed on the lows and appropriately staffed on the peaks. Some would disagree.
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