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Sluggo_63 03-19-2020 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by 80emb145 (Post 3003666)
Youre Inviting attacks by putting it in a public forum. You could have gone on swapa forums and asked.

I tell you what. You guys really do circle the wagons. Every other forum on here full of discussion on what's going on in the world.

SWA announces capacity cuts of at least 20% through June of this year, and there's not a peep on here. It really is amazing...

hoover 03-19-2020 11:56 AM

That's what I was thinking. Depressurization and karbon jackets are what's really going on right now

rickair7777 03-19-2020 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 3003182)
Is that the one A/c that depressurized and 12" crack found? Airplanes break so what!? If you fly it enough it will break.


There's a lot of redundancy in our planes, and we obviously accept that some things break. I've had three emergency descents due to cabin pressure (various root causes in press system) and I'm OK with that.

I am NOT OK with structural failures in an airplane, most especially in the pressure vessel... in case you're not an an engineer, once it starts ripping under pressure it's hard to predict where it will end (especially in an older plane with a lot cycles and fatigue)... there are a variety of historical case studies and I can think of only one with a relatively happy ending (Aloha). The ONLY acceptable standard is that the pressure vessel and other key structural items doesn't fail in flight (they can fatigue and crack as long as the system catches before it fails).

Smokey23 03-19-2020 02:23 PM

Not that it really excuses anything, but based on this aircraft's tail #, it is likely one of the highest-time/cycle -700s in the world.

Burton78 03-19-2020 07:43 PM

We pop one?
 

Originally Posted by Sluggo_63 (Post 3004054)
I tell you what. You guys really do circle the wagons. Every other forum on here full of discussion on what's going on in the world.



SWA announces capacity cuts of at least 20% through June of this year, and there's not a peep on here. It really is amazing...



Well to be honest, from my observation, there's a very small amount of us that partake in the APC banter. The vast majority speak their minds loud and clear on our internal Facebook pages; and then there's the regulars on SWAPA forums or PPrune. APC just isn't a common convening site for many SWA pilots.

80emb145 03-22-2020 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Sluggo_63 (Post 3004054)
I tell you what. You guys really do circle the wagons. Every other forum on here full of discussion on what's going on in the world.

SWA announces capacity cuts of at least 20% through June of this year, and there's not a peep on here. It really is amazing...

Why would I want to discuss company business with those outside the company? So y’all can speculate exactly in the same manner you speculated?

Sluggo_63 03-22-2020 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by 80emb145 (Post 3007209)
Why would I want to discuss company business with those outside the company? So y’all can speculate exactly in the same manner you speculated?

How exactly did I speculate? The 20% reduction? Wasn't that published?

I don't really care. You guys do you. It does allow others at different airlines but in the same sector the ability to gauge what is going on in the rest of the industry. That's all.

DownAndDirty 03-23-2020 12:38 PM

Just my $.02 from an FNG with the company, but I really haven't ran into many doomsday prophets thinking the world is ending, we're all getting furloughed, and our pets heads are falling off. Maybe it's the SWA propaganda, maybe it's the "culture" that's shoved in our faces 24/7, or maybe it's the company's track record, but I would say as a group, most of us are pretty calm. I mean, I'm at like 97% seniority company-wide and I haven't worried for 1 second about losing my job. Maybe I'm naive, but I feel like this company is in a better position than any of the other majors and if anyone is going to pull itself out of this, it's us.

RadarColor 03-23-2020 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3004322)
there's a lot of redundancy in our planes, and we obviously accept that some things break. I've had three emergency descents due to cabin pressure (various root causes in press system) and i'm ok with that.

I am not ok with structural failures in an airplane, most especially in the pressure vessel... In case you're not an an engineer, once it starts ripping under pressure it's hard to predict where it will end (especially in an older plane with a lot cycles and fatigue)... There are a variety of historical case studies and i can think of only one with a relatively happy ending (aloha). The only acceptable standard is that the pressure vessel and other key structural items doesn't fail in flight (they can fatigue and crack as long as the system catches before it fails).

always an expert on “everything”.

Sluggo_63 03-23-2020 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by DownAndDirty (Post 3008876)
Just my $.02 from an FNG with the company, but I really haven't ran into many doomsday prophets thinking the world is ending, we're all getting furloughed, and our pets heads are falling off. Maybe it's the SWA propaganda, maybe it's the "culture" that's shoved in our faces 24/7, or maybe it's the company's track record, but I would say as a group, most of us are pretty calm. I mean, I'm at like 97% seniority company-wide and I haven't worried for 1 second about losing my job. Maybe I'm naive, but I feel like this company is in a better position than any of the other majors and if anyone is going to pull itself out of this, it's us.

I'm an outsider to all this, but I do have quite a few friends at SWA. Unfortunately, I think you might be being a bit naïve indeed. I think if you see real drastic cuts to the TFP guarantee, you're unfortunately going to see a lot of the "just furlough the bottom" people who are keeping their mouth's shut now make a much more vocal appearance. I hope I'm wrong. Good luck to you and your brothers there at SWA.


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