Dallas Morning News SWA article?
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Some of us still don't know the pilot group we work with. I will not be surprised at all when pilots are bidding on everything in sight, running screen scrapers in all bases, etc.
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Dallas Morning News SWA article?
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They'll do it nonetheless, disdain be damned.
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This conversation took a predictable turn.
Look, you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves. Nobody can predict what 2 months from now will look like much less next summer.
PS, I credited over 140 last month. Board not blocked. Worked 7 days. No open time. Get that money while the getting is good.
Look, you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves. Nobody can predict what 2 months from now will look like much less next summer.
PS, I credited over 140 last month. Board not blocked. Worked 7 days. No open time. Get that money while the getting is good.
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This conversation took a predictable turn.
Look, you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves. Nobody can predict what 2 months from now will look like much less next summer.
PS, I credited over 140 last month. Board not blocked. Worked 7 days. No open time. Get that money while the getting is good.
Look, you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves. Nobody can predict what 2 months from now will look like much less next summer.
PS, I credited over 140 last month. Board not blocked. Worked 7 days. No open time. Get that money while the getting is good.
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Not knocking guys who are killing it. Hell, I’ll do 140 this month too. Just saying we shouldn’t have any concession talks about cutting guarantee while people are crediting nearly 2x guarantee every month. If we limited credit via a LOA temporarily to save Dean I’d be fine working less credit to keep people employed.
Yes I agree. We are getting way ahead of ourselves. Once Q2 rolls around next year and we can see what forward bookings are going to look like for the summer, that's when the rubber is going to meet the road for SWA. They have enough cash to survive intact until then.
If demand doesn't return in some fashion by that point, I expect major changes and me to start dusting off my resume' and interview suit. The whole industry will be radically transformed if that is the case and there will be a glut of people with a particular skillset that is no longer desired.
I think that Gary is going all in. Why not at this point? There is no competitive advantage to exploit or secret sauce to apply. Either demand returns or it doesn't. We are in a position to stick it out and take advantage of the vacuum left by our competitors, which is great. May as well keep all the employees hanging out if you can afford it. However, if America isn't back flying by Spring 2021, nobody is going to be safe from the chopping block.
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I booked 150+ the last couple months and I usually do around 110. I still think I am furlough fodder. I am going to run up my tfp as much as I can until I know I am in the clear.
Make no mistake about it though. If folks hit the streets and I somehow manage to hang on there will be not one tfp over guarantee. I lived through 2008 - 2010 at the regionals and we had folks on furlough. There was tremendous peer pressure against picking up overtime. I would really have thought it would have been a known expectation here.
It is pretty simple. If 7,500 pilots don’t pick up 1 day trip a month, that is 500+ pilots back on the line. There isn’t a pilot on the line that needs money more than a furloughed pilot. Period.
I pray we don’t go there, but I am going to make certain I am ready for furlough or guarantee.
Make no mistake about it though. If folks hit the streets and I somehow manage to hang on there will be not one tfp over guarantee. I lived through 2008 - 2010 at the regionals and we had folks on furlough. There was tremendous peer pressure against picking up overtime. I would really have thought it would have been a known expectation here.
It is pretty simple. If 7,500 pilots don’t pick up 1 day trip a month, that is 500+ pilots back on the line. There isn’t a pilot on the line that needs money more than a furloughed pilot. Period.
I pray we don’t go there, but I am going to make certain I am ready for furlough or guarantee.
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