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Old 02-10-2021, 06:15 PM
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And yet you continue.
e6 don't bother macjet is "troll extraordinaire"
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Old 02-14-2021, 11:23 PM
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Lacking a better analogy, sometimes its better to kill baby Hitler vs letting it grow up
Or you can satisfy Kant and Hume by adopting baby hitler and making sure he doesn’t turn out to be the kind of self hating guy that needs death camps to feel better about himself.
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Old 02-19-2021, 05:33 AM
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Hu... me?

I kan’t stand that kind of thinking. Sarte all bad though. The Aquinas are a changing.
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot View Post
That must be a fun survey to do. Do you pass it out when you board and then collect them when you deplane?

Sorry I hurt your feelings. I honestly don't care who flies what airline. My comments were more on the business models. I hope that soon we are all complaining about how much we have to work and how short we are on pilots.

Look at the way SWA disrupted the industry post deregulation. That's exactly what the ULCCs are doing now. Fast forward a decade and you can bet there will be some consolidation and one or two strong players in the true ULCC game. Just like SWA has failed to compete head to head with legacy carriers doing legacy carrier stuff, so too will the ULCCs. Size and scale matter.

Now, a huge ULCC (700 plus aircraft) that is flush with cash? Yikes. That's something to be feared.
as long as you SWAPA folks don’t #AIRTRAN us Spirit people, I’m happy. We all know how that’ll play out though
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Old 02-25-2021, 09:57 AM
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as long as you SWAPA folks don’t #AIRTRAN us Spirit people, I’m happy. We all know how that’ll play out though
NK and WN makes zero sense. NK and F9 are the most similar in terms of fleet, business plan, and contracts. The only reason to buy NK is to take out some competition but that still leaves a ULCC hole for F9 to grow in.
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Old 02-25-2021, 01:03 PM
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NK and WN makes zero sense. NK and F9 are the most similar in terms of fleet, business plan, and contracts. The only reason to buy NK is to take out some competition but that still leaves a ULCC hole for F9 to grow in.
Forestalling an F9/NK merger would buy WN the decade or more it would take for F9 to grow organically to the size of the combined NK/F9 airline today. WN would be in an enviable position of having small and fragmented but relatively agile competition on the bottom, and large and lumbering behemoths on the top.

Not that I think its going to happen, but mergers don't need to be about some economies of scale.
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Old 02-25-2021, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy View Post
as long as you SWAPA folks don’t #AIRTRAN us Spirit people, I’m happy. We all know how that’ll play out though
Easy fix......tell them to stick it and take it to arbitration. Simple. Don’t fall for the threats.
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Old 02-25-2021, 04:55 PM
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Easy fix......tell them to stick it and take it to arbitration. Simple. Don’t fall for the threats.

Whack, I think you are preaching exactly what everybody should have learned from the merger. That one was an odd bird, not subject to ALPA merger policy. Some people blinked, and we can understand why, and SL10 was the result, 85%/15% on both sides. I don’t think the Guadalupe option would fly again. That hand was played.
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Old 02-26-2021, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81 View Post
NK and WN makes zero sense. NK and F9 are the most similar in terms of fleet, business plan, and contracts. The only reason to buy NK is to take out some competition but that still leaves a ULCC hole for F9 to grow in.
I love when pilots say "this merger wouldn't make sense". What makes sense to corporate geeks and bean counters, doesn't make sense to us. They think in a completely different realm.
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Whack, I think you are preaching exactly what everybody should have learned from the merger. That one was an odd bird, not subject to ALPA merger policy. Some people blinked, and we can understand why, and SL10 was the result, 85%/15% on both sides. I don’t think the Guadalupe option would fly again. That hand was played.
I was former AIRTRAN and would be livid if someone got better then us. They deserve the same as Morris, Muse and AIRTRAN!!!
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