Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3249812)

When there was no premium, pilots were whining that the company over hired resulting in not enough flying available.

Then Covid hits and thankfully the VSPers and ExTOers voluntarily take pay cuts to save the company.

Now, here we are......premium flows like wine, everyone can make big money, and what do we get....

......Pilots whining about extra flying being available.

Originally Posted by 4V14T0R (Post 3249847)

I understand all that. I'm good with all the premium, except JA, which thankfully I haven't had. What I'm telling you is in the next year we simply cannot cover our schedule without more bodies. You seem to be inferring we can. Is that correct?

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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3249996)

That’s irrelevant.

For the past year, our future schedule has far outstripped our manpower.

The company would make 4,000 flights available even with 25% of the pilots out. They posted aggressive schedules, sold tickets, then cut flights and reaccomodated passengers 6 weeks out.

So what you are worried about is and has been irrelevant for some time, but is also besides the point.

My point is that it’s funny that this pilot group whines when there is no premium and then whines when there is premium.

I keep hearing about the ‘good old days’ when even junior folk could get premium.... what was it like when you were hired here?

I hope SWAPA pushes through the “check this box to volunteer for JA”. Might make for less whining.... but then again these people love to whine.

Originally Posted by 4V14T0R (Post 3250047)

All pilots love to whine. I hope they do the check the box thing as well. There are certainly times I'd volunteer for that.

The situation going forward is not going to be what it was in the recent past. They did that to see where demand was and then shaped down. Going forward I don't see them shaping down near as much.


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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna;[url=tel:3249996

3249996[/url]]That’s irrelevant.

For the past year, our future schedule has far outstripped our manpower.

The company would make 4,000 flights available even with 25% of the pilots out. They posted aggressive schedules, sold tickets, then cut flights and reaccomodated passengers 6 weeks out.

So what you are worried about is and has been irrelevant for some time, but is also besides the point.

My point is that it’s funny that this pilot group whines when there is no premium and then whines when there is premium.

I keep hearing about the ‘good old days’ when even junior folk could get premium.... what was it like when you were hired here?

I hope SWAPA pushes through the “check this box to volunteer for JA”. Might make for less whining.... but then again these people love to whine.

Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3249996)

That’s irrelevant.

For the past year, our future schedule has far outstripped our manpower.

The company would make 4,000 flights available even with 25% of the pilots out. They posted aggressive schedules, sold tickets, then cut flights and reaccomodated passengers 6 weeks out.

So what you are worried about is and has been irrelevant for some time, but is also besides the point.

My point is that it’s funny that this pilot group whines when there is no premium and then whines when there is premium.

I keep hearing about the ‘good old days’ when even junior folk could get premium.... what was it like when you were hired here?

I hope SWAPA pushes through the “check this box to volunteer for JA”. Might make for less whining.... but then again these people love to whine.

Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ (Post 3250060)

Have you ever considered that it's two different sets of pilots whining about these two scenarios?

Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna (Post 3250061)

Yes but around here sometimes people argue with themselves