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poopooplatter 10-10-2021 12:26 PM

Not sure why this is such a concern, guys! We already have official company communication that says this is due to weather and ATC! Can’t very well make accusations against us when you have already advertised the “cause” for this catastrophe.

Lewbronski 10-10-2021 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by poopooplatter (Post 3306999)
Not sure why this is such a concern, guys! We already have official company communication that says this is due to weather and ATC! Can’t very well make accusations against us when you have already advertised the “cause” for this catastrophe.

Until they "discover" otherwise. That's what legal discovery is about. Again, I wouldn't doubt at all that the company is in stealth legal discovery mode right now. Let's not give them ammunition to be able to change their story.

DeltaLite 10-10-2021 12:51 PM

IMSAFE is private pilot 101. The company placed undue stress on you guys and you made the safest decision by staying home. I commend you all for your commitment to safety!

Lewbronski 10-10-2021 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by DeltaLite (Post 3307009)
IMSAFE is private pilot 101. The company placed undue stress on you guys and you made the safest decision by staying home. I commend you all for your commitment to safety!

All of these sorts of ideas have been hashed out a bazillion times in past labor disputes. They don't hold water in the eyes of the courts. Again, best strategy is to be quiet and maintain the status quo. Let the union handle it with the courts. Don't make their job more difficult.

Skyward 10-10-2021 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by LUVisLost (Post 3306922)
From looking at sick and fatigue calls there is not an appreciable spike.

Fatigue is higher but the duty day increase has increased also. I’m sure that is correlated but would require more data to analyze.

Sick calls are a drop in the bucket, not appreciable to the volume of flights.

And where do you find the stats on that??

LUVisLost 10-10-2021 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Lewbronski (Post 3307013)
All of these sorts of ideas have been hashed out a bazillion times in past labor disputes. They don't hold water in the eyes of the courts. Again, best strategy is to be quiet and maintain the status quo. Let the union handle it with the courts. Don't make their job more difficult.

Please listen to this guy. While I personally feel this is mismanagement and I have not seen competing stats to indicate anything along the lines of pilot demonstration I will say if there is even a hint, a little string to pull at all to make the pilots look bad and take the heat off management they will find it and use it.

In that regard FOR THE LOVE OF GOD get your spouses off the FB hen page. It that is every leaked publicly it makes no difference what the facts indicate. It’s a PR nightmare. Jesus people…..

DeltaboundRedux 10-10-2021 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Up7997 (Post 3306815)
A pilot group with cojones

Not SWA, obviously, but I thought much the same.

Don’t they know that gentlemen pilots are supposed to ask the officials who administer the RLA for permission to color ever so slightly outside the lines?

LUVisLost 10-10-2021 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Skyward (Post 3307018)
And where do you find the stats on that??

Ask the right people you would be amazed the stats that tracked….

rightseat 10-10-2021 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3306955)
How quaint, you guys think you have a meltdown going on…. Spirit be like “hold my beer…”. :D

Best post if the day!!

rickair7777 10-10-2021 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by LUVisLost (Post 3307020)
Please listen to this guy. While I personally feel this is mismanagement and I have not seen competing stats to indicate anything along the lines of pilot demonstration I will say if there is even a hint, a little string to pull at all to make the pilots look bad and take the heat off management they will find it and use it.

In that regard FOR THE LOVE OF GOD get your spouses off the FB hen page. It that is every leaked publicly it makes no difference what the facts indicate. It’s a PR nightmare. Jesus people…..

News media is hinting at a walkout...

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-new...mains-unclear/


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