Caveman

Lots of other great gigs hiring right now, maybe a domicile/commute/big plane/cargo vs pax/intl motivates a change. I know 1221 SWA folks got a warm holiday greeting last year that might be motivated too look elsewhere for other reasons as well. There's might be some with long term company leadership concerns as well, as server brownouts, polar vortexs, frozen fuel barges, and absentism is often to blame for operational problems....very little ownership by the princes and kings in the SWA Kingdom.

We'll all know if we made the right decisions after it's all over, not a moment sooner if past aviation career history can be applied to the next 25 year span

hindsight2020

Interesting. I was led to believe by my SW coworkers at the sq that one could give away trips via TTGA? I'm puzzled by your statement about staffing. I would think a hypothetical overstaffing would positively affect one's ability to drop trips, as an airline of "workaholics" (what SW has been characterized to me, when speaking about other represented pilot groups in the room) would provide a ready source of giveaway recipients (unless absolutely low-credit/reserve junk, which is stipulated). Maybe I misunderstood what they meant by TTGA.

Spirit has been pitched to me as a good airline to drop with abandon. But the same stipulations about coverage apply, something my AA acquaintance warned me about his airline (their red/redder thing making trip dropping a functional impossibility, even though the mechanism otherwise exists on paper).

This site is invaluable for that alone, the ability to pick apart the advertised traits with the reality on the ground. Happy Thanksgiving.

at6d

I can say without a doubt that the flexibility at WN is light years above what my wholly owned at the time regional offered.

That being said, it is true that there is no drop mechanism here, but there is opportunity to remedy some of your schedule through the TTGA and ELITT functions.

Reducing one’s schedule is problematic vs. increasing it.

For me, it is also true that not one time in my completed six years at WN have I ever had a call from anyone in the chief’s office over a sick call other than a call from the office saying they applied covid pay wrong and they made it right.

Yes, a lot can be improved here. If you are a lost decade flyer, it’s a good place to be in my seniority.

If you are seeking your first major, you could do worse.

LUVisLost

You have a PHD in economics? I have a BS and MBA and spent 10 years on Wall Street dealing with the guys that handle the economy. I am smart enough to know a ton of that is over my head. If it’s over mine with my background I assume it’s over yours. I can explain in theory how it works but damned if reality it doesn’t act differently and I have no explanation on why. The smartest guys in the room know….

I don’t give a rats arse what the emissions output of your car is or what mine is. It’s legal is all I know. I do know I get 43 MPG on the highway and it cost me 44 bucks 2 days ago to fill up. If you drive an F350 in this economy don’t complain about the cost to fill up. You made that choice.

Don’t get so wrapped around the axel man….

MudhammedCJ

You must be a lonely little troll.

flyguy81

I got a big truck…but I also got a big camper with mountains nearby. Diesel is cheaper than 87 now and with a fleet card I can usually save on that even.

Not everyone wants or can make use of a small car. Vehicles are tools and are designed for different purposes. If all you do is go to the store and work…buy a hybrid or EV.

Go rock crawling in Moab…that thing won’t make it past the first obstacle.

at6d

Again, I don’t have an F350. Sorry your time
on Wall Street didn’t pan out. But I do know that it takes $50/barrel to make money on oil coming out of the ground, and I wasn’t born yesterday.

What I don’t need is for an MBA in Wall Street that converted to flying airplanes to **** down my back and tell me it’s raining. And I’m guessing I was right about the Tesla or Prius.

The current administration will look much different after the mid-term elections. And it’s the economy.

Again, Happy Thanksgiving.

Sqwk7700

Can't we all just..... Get along?

Ninethstage

Give it a rest dude. We get it, you’ve got an MBA and worked Wall Street. We’re talking airplane stuff now.

Crockrocket95

There are ways to "drop" but if its through TTGA, someone has to take your trip. It can't just be given back to the company.

Through the ELITT, you can trade with the company with what they have available and you can lose 4 duty periods (days) if there is space. Example - you can only trade a 4 day trip for a 2 day trip if there is something called a positive +2 on the "Net Zero" periods within the company (its per base). If its at +1 you can ELITT down a 3 day to a 2 day, or a 2 day to a 1 day etc. If its at Zero, you have to wait till someone changes a 3 day for a 4 day trip to make it go to PLUS 1. Its a pain.

So effectively, you can't just DROP flying days, someone has to pick them up or the company has to have space. But sometimes you just don't feel well and are not fit to fly....