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Duke Beamer 04-11-2022 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Fly4FunAA (Post 3404705)
Can anyone share about how much you get per month you get during training?

When does 401k start and is there a cycle for profit sharing?

1st year pay is $87.06/TFP, and initial training is guaranteed at 5 TFP/day. I think they have a schedule of about 18 days of work/mo during initial. I want to say it usually ends up around 88-90 TFP/mo during initial training. But I’m not 100% sure on that.

I’m pretty sure the 401K starts right away. And we get PS paid out in March, if we have any PS. Last year was around 4.2%. You don’t earn PS your 1st year here, so the first time a 2022 hire will see any PS will be in March ‘24.

Zard 04-11-2022 10:28 PM

New hire pay is based on guarantee for that particular month. No per diem.

89/87/85 trips for a 31/30/28&29 day month. It’s prorated for your first month if you don’t start on the 1st of the month.

tm602 04-11-2022 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by Duke Beamer (Post 3404723)
1st year pay is $87.06/TFP, and initial training is guaranteed at 5 TFP/day. I think they have a schedule of about 18 days of work/mo during initial. I want to say it usually ends up around 88-90 TFP/mo during initial training. But I’m not 100% sure on that.

I’m pretty sure the 401K starts right away. And we get PS paid out in March, if we have any PS. Last year was around 4.2%. You don’t earn PS your 1st year here, so the first time a 2022 hire will see any PS will be in March ‘24.

Rate on my hire letter was $75.77 or something like that, not $87.06. Am I missing something?

BIGRIG 04-12-2022 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by Duke Beamer (Post 3404723)
1st year pay is $87.06/TFP, and initial training is guaranteed at 5 TFP/day. I think they have a schedule of about 18 days of work/mo during initial. I want to say it usually ends up around 88-90 TFP/mo during initial training. But I’m not 100% sure on that.

I’m pretty sure the 401K starts right away. And we get PS paid out in March, if we have any PS. Last year was around 4.2%. You don’t earn PS your 1st year here, so the first time a 2022 hire will see any PS will be in March ‘24.

I think they recently changed profit sharing for new hires. You get prorated profit sharing as long as you start before July 1st. I think the union just put something out about that. Or maybe it was something they’re looking for in the new contract.

Crockrocket95 04-12-2022 01:10 AM

I probably average about 150 TFP a month. Usually working about 15-16 days. Some months more, some less. With the reroutes, JA, available open time, the TFP has been skewed a bit higher than normal for just about everyone the past year...

Crockrocket95 04-12-2022 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by tm602 (Post 3404746)
Rate on my hire letter was $75.77 or something like that, not $87.06. Am I missing something?

You're not. Its 75.77 for FO first year pay.

Slayer123 04-12-2022 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by Crockrocket95 (Post 3404754)
You're not. Its 75.77 for FO first year pay.

The whole scale is inaccurate on APC

Duke Beamer 04-12-2022 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by tm602 (Post 3404746)
Rate on my hire letter was $75.77 or something like that, not $87.06. Am I missing something?

You’re right, I read the wrong column on the pay rate chart. I looked at the hourly conversion. That’s my bad!

tm602 04-12-2022 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Duke Beamer (Post 3404836)
You’re right, I read the wrong column on the pay rate chart. I looked at the hourly conversion. That’s my bad!

I'm always right. My wife even tells me so when we argue:D

flyguy81 04-12-2022 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by BIGRIG (Post 3404752)
I think they recently changed profit sharing for new hires. You get prorated profit sharing as long as you start before July 1st. I think the union just put something out about that. Or maybe it was something they’re looking for in the new contract.

That's a wish list....any change like that would have to be in a MOU or included in a new CBA


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