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MatthewAMEL 09-19-2022 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by sMFer (Post 3497468)
Lee K. just came into a recurrent class and said no new bases planned until 2027.

Was told something similar by Watterston this summer while there for Upgrade. No new domiciles until at least 2025...front runner is STL.

WNeast 09-19-2022 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 3497676)
Was told something similar by Watterston this summer while there for Upgrade. No new domiciles until at least 2025...front runner is STL.

Any other rumors ?

flyguy81 09-19-2022 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by Liberty (Post 3497483)
As far as which ponds will be stocked in the near future, I deadheaded next to a new hire that’s DEN based. He said they were told that DEN would see x1000 FOs. ONE THOUSAND!! 👨‍✈️

Been on the books for awhile since the terminal expansion started. Holdup has been staffing and inability to fly our schedule. DEN is supposed to grow by 800 pilots (400/seat) which would take it to 2000 pilots. It’s a terrible base…if you’re senior to me.

MatthewAMEL 09-19-2022 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by WNeast (Post 3497677)
Any other rumors ?

My info is a few months old, was there in July...12,000 pilots and 1,500 airplanes by 2030 is the current plan. 1,000 a side in DEN is a no-brainer. That'll happen quick.

Trying to get the network back to frequency pre-covid/pre-max grounding.

Waiting to see what happens with the Max7. 50/50 now it gets certified without a new type rating.

flyguy81 09-19-2022 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 3497691)
My info is a few months old, was there in July...12,000 pilots and 1,500 airplanes by 2030 is the current plan. 1,000 a side in DEN is a no-brainer. That'll happen quick.

Trying to get the network back to frequency pre-covid/pre-max grounding.

Waiting to see what happens with the Max7. 50/50 now it gets certified without a new type rating.

We’ll be close to 12k pilots next year if they hire what they say they will. Told us in Aug they wanted 1000 planes and 5k flights a day by ‘23-‘24

Lake Chuck 09-20-2022 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 3497691)
My info is a few months old, was there in July...12,000 pilots and 1,500 airplanes by 2030 is the current plan.

Not trying to shoot the messenger… 12k pilots and 1500 planes is an 8:1 ratio. Think we’ll hit 12k pilots well before 1500 planes.

Lostboys97 09-20-2022 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by WNeast (Post 3497677)
Any other rumors ?

Market plan is ~400 daily departures out of DEN next summer. Seems the crew numbers would be in line with this. As said previously, ground ops people is a whole nother story !

DownAndDirty 09-20-2022 06:24 AM

I'm not sure why anyone puts any belief in the rumors coming from the Bobs in the LEAD center. The MO up there is them talking out of their ass, then having to walk it back 6 months later due to "unforeseen circumstances". Feel free to bookmark my post here for future reference when they tell us due to uncertainty in the economic climate, they've had to adjust their new hire numbers from 2000 to 800 and our aircraft deliveries have been slashed in half. Rinse and repeat.

Salukidawg 09-20-2022 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by DownAndDirty (Post 3497795)
I'm not sure why anyone puts any belief in the rumors coming from the Bobs in the LEAD center. The MO up there is them talking out of their ass, then having to walk it back 6 months later due to "unforeseen circumstances". Feel free to bookmark my post here for future reference when they tell us due to uncertainty in the economic climate, they've had to adjust their new hire numbers from 2000 to 800 and our aircraft deliveries have been slashed in half. Rinse and repeat.

^^^^^^^^This!

hoover 09-20-2022 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Lostboys97 (Post 3497776)
Market plan is ~400 daily departures out of DEN next summer. Seems the crew numbers would be in line with this. As said previously, ground ops people is a whole nother story !

I hear the goal is 600 departures a day there


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