I fully support a SAV, however, there are risks right now. It risks getting “lost” in the wave of bad news. It also can make the pilot’s look unsympathetic to the recovery plight of both SWA and our pax (I know that’s not true, but the entire premise of a SAV is perception).

Poopoo out.

You may be correct in your assessment. On the contrary however, if the general public could be given a SAV against SWA I believe anyone affected by this would vote yes in a heart beat. (No LUV intented). I can't imagine the public seeing a pilot SAV as anything other than us standing up for them and voicing what they probably are feeling themselves right about now. Who knows? I just don't want this to be explained away and forgotten about in 3 weeks and no actual urgent changes made. Somthing needs to change ASAP.

Yep. This is the time for SWAPA to quietly offer vocal support, and team buy in, from the pilot group in exchange for a great deal getting done quickly. BJ can Herb this moment…

The company would take the help and then continue to drag their feet on a new contract. My nephew is a dispatcher for SWA and that is exactly what has happened to their group after they voluntarily voted in pay cuts during COVID. I believe they are now entering their 5th year of stalled negotiations.

SWAPA has to do their job correctly, for sure…but if there was ever a moment to reverse trends on all fronts, this is it.

Can all of the union heads get together or is that against the rules?

Can they join forces and go offer to BJ to work together publicly to save the place after deals get done…or go on a media tour togetherif they don’t?

I don’t know what’s legal, but if I were BJ I’d grab hold of this moment with everything I had. Malcom Gladwell could add a chapter for this one…

I disagree. The time for an SAV is while
this mess is relatively fresh in the mind of the traveling public. Hold one before spring break and get the headlines out there. If enough people read ‘Southwest pilots vote to authorize strike,’ they’ll recall the meltdown and wonder ‘wtf is going on at SWA?’ Their next thought will be to book their tickets on any other airline for spring break.

When revenue misses, the big time shareholders might start asking some pointed questions. Questions like “is the ill will of protracted negotiations a distraction we can afford right now?’ ‘Why are these contracts still open?,’ and ‘Do you like your job on the board?’

I’m betting that if we SAV now, we get 62% based off the guy I just flew with. He thinks we should hold off on the contract all together.

I have flown with that guy…or one of the countless others with that mindset😒