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Bluesideup1 05-24-2023 10:29 PM

The push for DEI is starting to make sense
 
This is just a YouTube video so take it for what it is worth. If true, the reason we are seeing massive uptick in DEI around campus is not because of any woke ideology but more for the concerns of upper managements pocket book. I can understand that. If you offered me a couple mil to push something that doesn't help the company or bottom line I would be happy to jump on board spouting nonsense and disappear into the shadows when confronted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcWyPx9ookg

calmemployment 05-25-2023 03:10 AM


Originally Posted by Bluesideup1 (Post 3641303)
This is just a YouTube video so take it for what it is worth. If true, the reason we are seeing massive uptick in DEI around campus is not because of any woke ideology but more for the concerns of upper managements pocket book. I can understand that. If you offered me a couple mil to push something that doesn't help the company or bottom line I would be happy to jump on board spouting nonsense and disappear into the shadows when confronted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcWyPx9ookg

Watch SWA become the next Bud Lite.

PipeMan 05-25-2023 03:16 AM

A lot of it has to do with them saving money. Think about it. You go to the inner cities and ghettos to try and get people interested in aviation. These kids come from nothing so they would be willing to work for much less than the upper middle class white kid who grows up around other successful people. Or the kid whose dad is a pilot and knows how much sacrifice the career takes.

Not being racist or condescending to the kids who don’t have the luxury of paying cash for flight training or needing extra assistance, but I think this is what is happening.

flyguy81 05-25-2023 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by PipeMan (Post 3641320)
A lot of it has to do with them saving money. Think about it. You go to the inner cities and ghettos to try and get people interested in aviation. These kids come from nothing so they would be willing to work for much less than the upper middle class white kid who grows up around other successful people. Or the kid whose dad is a pilot and knows how much sacrifice the career takes.

Not being racist or condescending to the kids who don’t have the luxury of paying cash for flight training or needing extra assistance, but I think this is what is happening.

Except you still gotta put in the work and get the ratings, etc.

Or you can work at Chipotle for $24/hr and smoke pot all day.

Grumpyaviator 05-25-2023 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by PipeMan (Post 3641320)
A lot of it has to do with them saving money. Think about it. You go to the inner cities and ghettos to try and get people interested in aviation. These kids come from nothing so they would be willing to work for much less than the upper middle class white kid who grows up around other successful people. Or the kid whose dad is a pilot and knows how much sacrifice the career takes.

Not being racist or condescending to the kids who don’t have the luxury of paying cash for flight training or needing extra assistance, but I think this is what is happening.

By the time they got the training and experience they would have lots of exposure to the full potential the airlines have to offer. They would and should not want to be treated differently.

There are currently initiatives to introduce impoverished kids to aviation. I think it’s a great opportunity for them to see that high earnings are within reach to everyone that commits themselves to the opportunities that are available.

ZapBrannigan 05-25-2023 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy81 (Post 3641358)
Except you still gotta put in the work and get the ratings, etc.

Or you can work at Chipotle for $24/hr and smoke pot all day.

Yeah geez.. can't imagine why they think we need DEI training.

(Dude. Seriously.)

flyguy81 05-25-2023 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 3641415)
Yeah geez.. can't imagine why they think we need DEI training.

(Dude. Seriously.)

I DO live in CO! I’ve heard from more than 1 person that we have a lot of DEN ground ops new hires failing the drug test. And we pay less than Taco Bell. Why bother driving an hour to the airport and dealing with security, weather, and our BS when you can get a job down the street that’s in A/C and pays more.

I was on a ski lift this winter with a college kid who quit being a substitute teacher to work fast food because it paid more.

Kid1 05-25-2023 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by PipeMan (Post 3641320)
A lot of it has to do with them saving money. Think about it. You go to the inner cities and ghettos to try and get people interested in aviation. These kids come from nothing so they would be willing to work for much less than the upper middle class white kid who grows up around other successful people. Or the kid whose dad is a pilot and knows how much sacrifice the career takes.

Not being racist or condescending to the kids who don’t have the luxury of paying cash for flight training or needing extra assistance, but I think this is what is happening.





You are being racist and prejudice. There are plenty of upper middle class kids that aren't white. And low income people aren't only black people. Since u wanna talk about "the ghetto". This country has plenty of black people that are upper middle class. And even some that have a parent that is a pilot. Wow imagine that! You make a lot of stupid assumptions in your post!

Kid1 05-25-2023 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by PipeMan (Post 3641320)
A lot of it has to do with them saving money. Think about it. You go to the inner cities and ghettos to try and get people interested in aviation. These kids come from nothing so they would be willing to work for much less than the upper middle class white kid who grows up around other successful people. Or the kid whose dad is a pilot and knows how much sacrifice the career takes.

Not being racist or condescending to the kids who don’t have the luxury of paying cash for flight training or needing extra assistance, but I think this is what is happening.



and when someone says "not to be racist" they are being racist and they know it. They are just trying to convince themselves they aren't

PipeMan 05-25-2023 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Kid1 (Post 3641573)
You are being racist and prejudice. There are plenty of upper middle class kids that aren't white. And low income people aren't only black people. Since u wanna talk about "the ghetto". This country has plenty of black people that are upper middle class. And even some that have a parent that is a pilot. Wow imagine that! You make a lot of stupid assumptions in your post!

Oh no, I seem to have offended a very weak, bitter and angry little man. I’m the least racist person on the planet. I work with people from all races and backgrounds, and get along just fine with almost everyone.

This was about Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI), or did you miss the OP? Please point to where you see ANY white people being grouped in the DEI trifecta ANYWHERE in any company. When the airlines talk about attracting people from diverse backgrounds into aviation, are they going to rural trailer parks or the inner cities to try this out? Like you said, there is every race included in what most would consider upper middle class, but are those “other” races the airlines are shooting for? No, they are not.

They will try and find the most obedient and grateful worker who is thankful they were able to climb their way out of poverty into the paradise land! This is not brain surgery man. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but the airlines are taking the long view with the DEI stuff.


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