Since we don’t currently have assigned seating, no. There’s no language in our current CBA about middle seats on deadheads.

Yup. I know a few have it or gained that this round and we’re looking to do the same looking at our opening proposal.

Even for offline? If that’s the case yeah you’ll want that. Do you have no dh can be forced into the jump? I know it’s policy but is there language?

Yes. DH cannot be forced into JS.

Yes, that one is fortunately in there: "A pilot will be guaranteed a seat in the cabin but may at his discretion ride on the cockpit jump seat to prevent the removal of a customer from the flight if an over-sell occurs."

I agree we need no middle seats in the CBA. Assigned seating is the only thing that's going to put a stop to this pre-board circus.

I’m coming from a place that had labor friendly management for years and now doesn’t. It became pretty clear from our last agreement that language needed to reflect this fact. I try to share some of what was done last round to help with this fact. To my swa friends and here as well. I listen to one of your previous NC podcast and got the impression they understood this as well.

TFP needs to start with a 4. Zero concessions or a No vote.

We don’t dh on offline carriers… only SW flights. Deadheaders are allowed to pre-board and choose whatever seat desired. In a perfect world its not an issue, but the problem arrises when there is a tight connection and pre-board is not an option. In that case it may or may not be a middle seat depending on how full the flight.

There needs to be language to address that situation. Maybe the ops agent informs the operating crew to block an aisle seat for each dh’er that is on tight connect?? Or additional pay if there is not enough connection time to pre-board??

Spent 3 hrs in a middle seat on a dhd recently. Was hoping the dhd would push without me since it was showing a misconnect but they held it.

FA’s did me a solid saving room in a bin and got me a seat close to the front. Old Jewish couple refused to sit together but talked over me and passed their phones back and forth in front of me for almost 3 hrs. Finally I told them to knock it off or switch seats.

I just did a two hour deadhead in the middle seat because the plane was boarded when we got there. Last leg of the day (leg 5) or I would’ve fatigued before the next flight.