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MudhammedCJ 01-08-2024 01:56 PM

Did anyone's price actually go up?
 
Everyone that said "my price just went up" and votes yes to this contract is a chump. I'm not going to hash out the pay again, but the sentiment was stated over and over and over. And it looks like many that said it were absolutely FOS.

If you never said anything like it, this isn't about you. So don't get you frilly panties twisted.

ZapBrannigan 01-08-2024 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ (Post 3748210)
Everyone that said "my price just went up" and votes yes to this contract is a chump. I'm not going to hash out the pay again, but the sentiment was stated over and over and over. And it looks like many that said it were absolutely FOS.

If you never said anything like it, this isn't about you. So don't get you frilly panties twisted.

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FastNeatAvg 01-08-2024 02:12 PM

The fact remains it could be 500 TFP and many regulars on APC would be a hard no. They would lose their identity otherwise....

6packSteamJedi 01-08-2024 02:16 PM

love internet cringe tantrums

MudhammedCJ 01-08-2024 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by 6packSteamJedi (Post 3748220)
love internet cringe tantrums

Not a tantrum at all. What was cringy was all of the people who acted like they had some fight in them. Clearly that was all just a lot of talk.

Lostboys97 01-08-2024 03:22 PM

I have to agree. While 3-4 sections have great improvements, this TA is not the home run SWAPA has been messaging for, picketing for, setting up strike centers for, nor had a SAV for. Best negotiating environment ever and suddenly ~80% are fatigued and scared of waiting.

SlipKid 01-08-2024 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Lostboys97 (Post 3748245)
I have to agree. While 3-4 sections have great improvements, this TA is not the home run SWAPA has been messaging for, picketing for, setting up strike centers for, nor had a SAV for. Best negotiating environment ever and suddenly ~80% are fatigued and scared of waiting.


As predicted.

At least this time we didn't give too much away, and we're closer to an industry standard contract than ever before. That's huge for this pilot group.

Cyio 01-08-2024 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Lostboys97 (Post 3748245)
I have to agree. While 3-4 sections have great improvements, this TA is not the home run SWAPA has been messaging for, picketing for, setting up strike centers for, nor had a SAV for. Best negotiating environment ever and suddenly ~80% are fatigued and scared of waiting.

The best negotiating environment was a year ago. I don’t think we are in it anymore and my concern of kicking this down the road is that there is little incentive for the company to move quickly. Sure we could eventually take this all the way however there is a price for that as well.

Lostboys97 01-08-2024 05:43 PM

[QUOTE=Cyio;3748301]The best negotiating environment was a year ago.[QUOTE]

No, it wasn't.
The only thing driving the majority now is fear.

flyguy81 01-08-2024 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3748301)
The best negotiating environment was a year ago. I don’t think we are in it anymore and my concern of kicking this down the road is that there is little incentive for the company to move quickly. Sure we could eventually take this all the way however there is a price for that as well.

Look at FedEx……they rightfully turned it down but now the cargo market is very different.


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